Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 26th Jun 2013 16:41 UTC
Windows Microsoft has released the Windows 8.1 preview for download, but they region-locked it to 13 specific languages, and Dutch is not one of them. So, even though my Surface RT has been completely and utterly English from the day I bought it, I can't install Windows 8.1 and tell you something about it. Those of you who can download it, why don't you tell us what it's like - or you can head to The Verge who got early access. In case you couldn't tell, I'm a little annoyed that we're arbitrarily being left out once again.
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RE[5]: Start Button Useless??
by Nelson on Thu 27th Jun 2013 11:11 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Start Button Useless??"
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In a GUI, I am primarily visual with the way I interact with a computer. I "find" by actually looking at the screen and clicking. If I wanted to "search" by typing, then I would use the "Run..." command or open a terminal window...

Right, which is why I outlined multiple scenarios. Let's be clear though, I'm not here to cater to your usage needs or tell you how to use Windows -- or to even argue against whatever usage scenarios you can come up with.

Microsoft got a high level view of usage statistics in the aggregate and used that to make their determination -- your individual preferences aside, they optimized for core scenarios that suit the target demographic.

However, given that you mention that you prefer not to type ahead to find an app though, the new All Apps screen dedicates more of your pixels and more of your real estate (which with the Start Menu are doing precisely nothing of value) to showing more items on screen.

So Mr. Visual, with the All Apps screen you need to scroll less and you find information faster due to the faster sorting built into this screen.

How many results can you see in your Start Menu while searching for programs? Because I'll compare how many results you see on your large display to have many I can see on a 10 inch device. Surely with all that real estate you won't be bested in efficiency by such a small device?

Which, as I said, is a waste of space on all but phones and tablets...

Because having more space to show you more results in a more categorized fashion is a waste of space? You know what's a waste of space? The entire screen being unsuable while the Start Menu is open. I click anywhere but the Start Menu and it closes. How is this not wasted space?

Yes, and the problem is... they both suck. They don't solve anything that was a problem before. All they do is create problems for everything but computers that use tiny touchscreens as their primary input.

The Search results display more results, from more places, with more efficiency than the Windows 7 results in the Start Menu.

The problem they solved is that of scalability. Users on average use more apps than the Start Menu can show a once (iirc over 50 apps compared to the 20 or so apps a Start Menu can show without scrolling)

What? That would make more sense if you said "so the screen real estate is wasted to that end."

So much potential for a rational discussion, stymied by your baseless and incoherent dribble. You provided no supporting arguments, only repeating the same word over and over.

Though I'm sure you have a vast amount of data you've collected from usage to support your claim?

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