Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 27th Jun 2013 18:35 UTC
Games "Microsoft's Build developers conference in San Francisco has mainly focused on Windows 8.1 so far, but the company spent a few minutes talking about the future Xbox One development platform on Thursday. Steve Guggenheimer, vice president of Microsoft's Developer & Platform Evangelism group, provided big hints at how developers can target the Xbox One in future." Many Windows 8 Metro applications would work relatively well with Kinect gestures and such - so this makes sense to me. Still don't want a 'media entertainment experience device' though; I want a game console.
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False Dichotomy
by n4cer on Thu 27th Jun 2013 20:44 UTC
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2005-07-06

Still don't want a 'media entertainment experience device' though; I want a game console.


This is a false dichotomy.
Game consoles haven't only played games since the Sega Genesis or, depending on where you draw the often blurred line, some of Atari's systems.

Successful, mainstream consoles have straddled the multimedia line since the Sega CD and Sony PlayStation.

As long as you design for gaming, supporting other scenarios should be seen as a plus. Both the 360 and PS3 have non-gaming app ecosystems. The original Xbox One plans sought to make supporting that ecosystem a less clunky user experience. This brought benefits to the gaming side as well by not requiring a disc to be in the console, arbitrating your access to content, or having to wait for updates to load when you want to play (apps/games update in the background). Instead, you could just switch, at any time, to whatever game you had in your library or app you wanted, even running them simultaneously. The console moves from a modal, mostly single-tasking platform to a multitasking, self managing platform.

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RE: False Dichotomy
by UltraZelda64 on Thu 27th Jun 2013 20:59 in reply to "False Dichotomy"
UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

This is a false dichotomy.
Game consoles haven't only played games since the Sega Genesis or, depending on where you draw the often blurred line, some of Atari's systems.

What world are you from? Ever hear of the Nintendo 64? GameCube? Even the Dreamcast kept gaming at its core, although it offered a few "non-gaming" features (IIRC often as optional products like the keyboard). You're thinking Sony and Microsoft here. Nintendo is, so far, the only company that is at least trying to keep gaming at their core--but even they are somewhat caving to the pressure these days.

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RE[2]: False Dichotomy
by n4cer on Thu 27th Jun 2013 21:21 in reply to "RE: False Dichotomy"
n4cer Member since:
2005-07-06

Nintendo has all but lost core gamers (some of the very people critical of the Xbox One) by not updating their hardware each generation to support the latest technologies. Nintendo actually helps prove the false dichotomy. They focused mostly on games -- built "game consoles", but are losing gamers and ISVs.


My take on Thom's comment was that it was a reprise of the usual PS4 is a gaming console, Xbox One is not, simply because gaming was not MS' only consideration in developing the platform. Spec-wise, the platforms are comparable. MS didn't just build a media-centric device with little more power than a 360. They updated the gaming technology platform as well. If they didn't do that, Thom's comment would be understandable. As it is, Xbox One is dinged simply for offering flexibility.

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