Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 27th Jun 2013 18:35 UTC
Games "Microsoft's Build developers conference in San Francisco has mainly focused on Windows 8.1 so far, but the company spent a few minutes talking about the future Xbox One development platform on Thursday. Steve Guggenheimer, vice president of Microsoft's Developer & Platform Evangelism group, provided big hints at how developers can target the Xbox One in future." Many Windows 8 Metro applications would work relatively well with Kinect gestures and such - so this makes sense to me. Still don't want a 'media entertainment experience device' though; I want a game console.
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RE: False Dichotomy
by UltraZelda64 on Thu 27th Jun 2013 20:59 UTC in reply to "False Dichotomy"
UltraZelda64
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2006-12-05

This is a false dichotomy.
Game consoles haven't only played games since the Sega Genesis or, depending on where you draw the often blurred line, some of Atari's systems.

What world are you from? Ever hear of the Nintendo 64? GameCube? Even the Dreamcast kept gaming at its core, although it offered a few "non-gaming" features (IIRC often as optional products like the keyboard). You're thinking Sony and Microsoft here. Nintendo is, so far, the only company that is at least trying to keep gaming at their core--but even they are somewhat caving to the pressure these days.

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RE[2]: False Dichotomy
by n4cer on Thu 27th Jun 2013 21:21 in reply to "RE: False Dichotomy"
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2005-07-06

Nintendo has all but lost core gamers (some of the very people critical of the Xbox One) by not updating their hardware each generation to support the latest technologies. Nintendo actually helps prove the false dichotomy. They focused mostly on games -- built "game consoles", but are losing gamers and ISVs.


My take on Thom's comment was that it was a reprise of the usual PS4 is a gaming console, Xbox One is not, simply because gaming was not MS' only consideration in developing the platform. Spec-wise, the platforms are comparable. MS didn't just build a media-centric device with little more power than a 360. They updated the gaming technology platform as well. If they didn't do that, Thom's comment would be understandable. As it is, Xbox One is dinged simply for offering flexibility.

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RE[3]: False Dichotomy
by Sodki on Thu 27th Jun 2013 22:05 in reply to "RE[2]: False Dichotomy"
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2005-11-10

Nintendo actually helps prove the false dichotomy. They focused mostly on games -- built "game consoles", but are losing gamers and ISVs.


On the contrary. You are right in saying that Nintendo are losing gamers, but Nintendo is also winning on a different level: making gamers out of people who weren't gamers. Wii is, or at least was, sweeping out the casual, family orientated, gaming market, which is huge.

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