Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 27th Jun 2013 18:35 UTC
Games "Microsoft's Build developers conference in San Francisco has mainly focused on Windows 8.1 so far, but the company spent a few minutes talking about the future Xbox One development platform on Thursday. Steve Guggenheimer, vice president of Microsoft's Developer & Platform Evangelism group, provided big hints at how developers can target the Xbox One in future." Many Windows 8 Metro applications would work relatively well with Kinect gestures and such - so this makes sense to me. Still don't want a 'media entertainment experience device' though; I want a game console.
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RE[2]: False Dichotomy
by n4cer on Thu 27th Jun 2013 21:21 UTC in reply to "RE: False Dichotomy"
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Nintendo has all but lost core gamers (some of the very people critical of the Xbox One) by not updating their hardware each generation to support the latest technologies. Nintendo actually helps prove the false dichotomy. They focused mostly on games -- built "game consoles", but are losing gamers and ISVs.


My take on Thom's comment was that it was a reprise of the usual PS4 is a gaming console, Xbox One is not, simply because gaming was not MS' only consideration in developing the platform. Spec-wise, the platforms are comparable. MS didn't just build a media-centric device with little more power than a 360. They updated the gaming technology platform as well. If they didn't do that, Thom's comment would be understandable. As it is, Xbox One is dinged simply for offering flexibility.

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RE[3]: False Dichotomy
by Sodki on Thu 27th Jun 2013 22:05 in reply to "RE[2]: False Dichotomy"
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2005-11-10

Nintendo actually helps prove the false dichotomy. They focused mostly on games -- built "game consoles", but are losing gamers and ISVs.


On the contrary. You are right in saying that Nintendo are losing gamers, but Nintendo is also winning on a different level: making gamers out of people who weren't gamers. Wii is, or at least was, sweeping out the casual, family orientated, gaming market, which is huge.

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RE[4]: False Dichotomy
by Nelson on Thu 27th Jun 2013 22:16 in reply to "RE[3]: False Dichotomy"
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2005-11-29


On the contrary. You are right in saying that Nintendo are losing gamers, but Nintendo is also winning on a different level: making gamers out of people who weren't gamers. Wii is, or at least was, sweeping out the casual, family orientated, gaming market, which is huge.


I agree. Nintendo has a great strategy, but maybe a not so great execution.

However this is the exact approach Microsoft is taking with the Xbox One, and the opposite of what Sony is doing.

Microsoft acknowledges that the console market is a low growth market, so they're expanding the capabilities of the Xbox in order to accommodate new markets -- and coincidentally push them further into the living room.

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RE[4]: False Dichotomy
by jbates on Fri 28th Jun 2013 04:24 in reply to "RE[3]: False Dichotomy"
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2013-06-28

On the contrary. You are right in saying that Nintendo are losing gamers, but Nintendo is also winning on a different level: making gamers out of people who weren't gamers. Wii is, or at least was, sweeping out the casual, family orientated, gaming market, which is huge.

I'm under the impression that Nintendo sold a ridiculous number of Wii's to people who only played one or two games (Wii Sports, Wii Fit, etc), but then left the thing to collect dust. The casual gaming crowd the Wii catered to has long since moved on to smart phones and tablets. The folks at the senior center who enthusiastically bought a Wii don't have a Wii U now.

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