Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 27th Jun 2013 18:35 UTC
Games "Microsoft's Build developers conference in San Francisco has mainly focused on Windows 8.1 so far, but the company spent a few minutes talking about the future Xbox One development platform on Thursday. Steve Guggenheimer, vice president of Microsoft's Developer & Platform Evangelism group, provided big hints at how developers can target the Xbox One in future." Many Windows 8 Metro applications would work relatively well with Kinect gestures and such - so this makes sense to me. Still don't want a 'media entertainment experience device' though; I want a game console.
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RE: Problem is ....
by jockm on Thu 27th Jun 2013 23:55 UTC in reply to "Problem is ...."
jockm
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2012-12-22

If history is any judge, lots of people are willing to pay $399 and higher for game consoles (just look at what people are willing to pay for bundles, and day one units on ebay). I am not planning on it (arthritis keeps me from being a gamer anymore), and you aren't (for whatever reason), but let us not deny the market

While I have heard lots of wailing and gnashing of teeth about aspects of the XBox One, none of them I know personally were from people who have owned a console in the last few years, or were XBox users — ie lots of Sturm und Drang, but none of it from people who were likely to buy anyway.

I think there is every indication that Microsoft is going to have a very good launch with the XBox One. And the price will come down, and while some will continue to protest certain features and aspects of the console, the odds are that most people won't really remember this stuff six months from now.

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RE[2]: Problem is ....
by WorknMan on Fri 28th Jun 2013 00:47 in reply to "RE: Problem is ...."
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2005-11-13

If history is any judge, lots of people are willing to pay $399 and higher for game consoles (just look at what people are willing to pay for bundles, and day one units on ebay). I am not planning on it (arthritis keeps me from being a gamer anymore), and you aren't (for whatever reason), but let us not deny the market


Please to define 'lots of people'. Certainly not the 90 million or so who bought Wii's last gen. Most people I know who bought a PS3 did so because at the time, it was the only future-proof blu-ray player on the market. The fact that it could play video games was a nice bonus. And the only people I knew that owned a 360 (all 2 of them) were hardcore gamers. Those are the only folks that are going to pay $400+ for a pure game console, and there just aren't that many of them, vs the rest of the population that are sane ;)

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RE[3]: Problem is ....
by jockm on Fri 28th Jun 2013 02:57 in reply to "RE[2]: Problem is ...."
jockm Member since:
2012-12-22

Well the XBox 360 launched at $299 AND $399 ( http://www.gamespot.com//news/xbox-360-pricing-revealed-299-and-399... ), where the $399 version was the one with 20G hard drive. Again go look at the bundle prices and day one auction prices, and you will see people were willing to pay a lot more.

But why do you say the XBox One is solely a games console? Because their launch announcements have been emphasizing the One as a multipurpose system that you can play media (from both MS and Netflix, Hulu, et al), use Skype, surf the net, etc. They are selling it as a media center that is also a console.

And finally we get to the problem with anecdotal evidence. The people you know who got the PS3 did so primarily (or so they say) as a Blu-Ray player, but the majority of people I know who got the PS3 did so because they were PS2 owners and were loyal to the sony ecosystem.

Does this mean I think your example is wrong? Of course not. But it does mean that anecdotal evidence is of little use. Objective data rules. I am sure if you go looking you could come up with some solid numbers as to PS3 purchasers intent, and that would be interesting.

But tell me this, are you a gamer? Do you own one of the current generation of consoles? Because if you are not, they you aren't likely in MS's target demographic, right?

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