Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 5th Nov 2005 17:51 UTC, submitted by AdriAn Avila
Novell and Ximian Rumors circulating that Novell is going to kill off its popular Linux desktop lines are completely false. [However,] Novell is making one large strategic change. The GNOME interface is going to become the default interface on both the SLES and Novell Linux Desktop line. KDE libraries will be supplied on both, but the bulk of Novell's interface moving forward will be on GNOME. "The entire KDE graphical interface and product family will continue to be supported and delivered on OpenSuSE."
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It's not about the desktop
by elsewhere on Sat 5th Nov 2005 23:35 UTC
elsewhere
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2005-07-13

This decision had nothing to do with Gnome vs KDE. The executives at Novell couldn't give a fig about desktop choices.

Novell is emphasizing Mono. They are evangelizing it. They want it to become the de facto application platform. I won't comment on whether that's the best decision becuase frankly, I'm not a developer so am hardly qualified to make a judgement eitehr way, but having made that decision then it seems natural to focus on GTK resources vs qt, making gnome a natural choice pretty much by default.

So the question now is what happens with Gnome? Novell will no doubt push for mono's inclusion in Gnome, and Red Hat will not accept that. So if mono becomes a requirement, will gnome's biggest backer accept having to re-write or re-engineer the mono-dependencies out of gnome? Will Red Hat walk? Will gnome resist mandating mono for that reason? Will Novell accept Red Hat's reservations about mono and not push for inclusion in gnome and the increased legitimacy?

Gnome is dependent upon corporate backers, and therefore incapable of maintaining autonomous control. I'm not criticizing them for weighing heavily on their backers, any project of that nature needs funding and sponsorship to grow and prosper, but it also makes Gnome's roadmap and direction a bit volatile.

Complain all you want about KDE and eye candy, but at the very least Trolltech is self-funded and can react to market demand rather than balancing sponsor's agendas. I would expect that gives qt, and indirectly KDE, at least some more stability in terms of direction and roadmap. THAT is the kind of thing enterprises and commercial developers look at.

The qt licensing FUD is BS. If you're a small developer and can't see the value in qt, then don't use it, you've got many choices. But the big commercial developers, and many of the smaller ones, weigh things a little differently. They don't look at qt's development license in terms of free alternatives, they look at it in terms of return on investment. Leave it to them to decide.

Flame away, I try not to leave incendiary posts but really, this whole topic is getting out of hand. Novell is a multi-billion dollar organization, they're not making product development decisions, restructuring and setting corporate direction based on Gnome vs. KDE, that's simply one of many results. But don't kid yourselves into thinking it was a factor.

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RE: It's not about the desktop
by segedunum on Sun 6th Nov 2005 00:19 in reply to "It's not about the desktop"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

Novell is emphasizing Mono. They are evangelizing it. They want it to become the de facto application platform.

No, they're not, in any way shape or form - period. Some people wish that to be true, but it just isn't and the notion that it is is just plain laughable. Mono makes no money whatsoever for Novell, and in these layoffs and cuts it is most definitely out of the picture.

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elsewhere Member since:
2005-07-13

>Novell is emphasizing Mono. They are evangelizing it. They want it to become the de facto application platform.

No, they're not, in any way shape or form - period. Some people wish that to be true, but it just isn't and the notion that it is is just plain laughable. Mono makes no money whatsoever for Novell, and in these layoffs and cuts it is most definitely out of the picture.


Mono was key to their enterprise stragey, Ximian wasn't just a boutique purchase. They wanted customers to be able to transition from MS to Linux easily, at least that was the original spin. They need to compete with Red Hat as an application platform. They've stated time and time again they don't intend to remain a server-based platform relying on network services. They are sponsoring the project, they have developers working on it and they're the only mainstream distro that includes it. Novell doesn't openly dis Java, and they support it, but they won't embrace it.

Of course they're not making money directly on Mono, nobody is. The intent in sponsoring and endorsing is to increase help increase adoption of linux as part of their enterprise strategy.

I can't speak to Novell's ultimate future plans, nobody can at this point, but I have a buddy that works there and when he's out presenting to the channel, mono has been stated as part of their strategy. I'd be very surprised if they wind up totally cutting off sponsorship and funding, and left it to the community to succeed in developing it on their own. If Novell cuts ties with mono it would not bode very well for the project in terms of enterprise legitimacy and may re-ignite the FUD over IP/patent issues.

Anyways, just MHO.

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