Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 28th Jun 2013 14:37 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "BlackBerry offered few signs of a long-promised turnaround on Friday, with an unexpected quarterly operating loss, a dearth of details on sales of its make-or-break new line of devices and no return to profit expected in the current quarter. BlackBerry shares tumbled about 28 percent in both U.S. and Toronto trading." 'Unexpected'? Really?
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moondevil
Member since:
2005-07-08

Games studios do, that is the only type of apps I care about.

However you are right, I am currently pissed off with the MSVC++ 2012 out-of-band updates vs MSVC++ 2013 story, although my employer still uses MSVC++ 2010.

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Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

I agree as a whole for Visual Studio. The downside of these fast paced yearly updates is just how much Visual Studio costs, and the startling realization that VS doesn't offer upgrade pricing.

I think the solution to this is simple and I'm surprised there's not much movement in this area: We need Visual Studio 365.

Give me a subscription based (and cloud enabled) Visual Studio IDE. That way I can keep up with the fast pace of innovation in a financially sensible manner, Microsoft gets recurring income, and it moves them closer to their Device&Services goal.

I did think the VS2013 stuff was mindblowing though, specifically for XAML devs.

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moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

I want my developer tools on my desktop, I will never buy into SaaS tooling.

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jared_wilkes Member since:
2011-04-25

I'll never trust a developer moaning about the cost of an IDE. If you aren't capable enough as a developer and as a business person to be able to afford relatively cheap software (even if it is on an annual basis), I have no reason to believe you are capable of producing quality software.

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moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

Replying to myself as edit is no longer possible, Herb Sutter made some clarifications about the whole issue regarding updates and MSVC++2013.

http://herbsutter.com/2013/06/26/my-build-talk-on-friday-noon-pdt-w...

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