Linked by Howard Fosdick on Tue 2nd Jul 2013 21:04 UTC
Editorial Like many of you, I've been watching the big changes in user interfaces over the past few years, trying to make sense of them all. Is there a common explanation for the controversies surrounding the Windows 8 UI and Unity? Where do GNOME 3, KDE, Cinnamon, and MATE fit in? This article offers one view.
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Comment by linux-lover
by linux-lover on Tue 2nd Jul 2013 23:18 UTC
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2011-04-25

Curious to see iOS and mac osx figures combined.

Anyways KDE 4 did not have a huge influence from mobile, the complaints were about missing features, bugs, instability, and piss poor performance. Release after 4.0 got better. From 4.6 and onwards kde4 has been fantastic (IMO one of the best on linux).


As for gnome, I like the gnome3 UX a lot. Its clean, efficient, and a joy to use (imo). But the developers are jerks. They butchered nautilus in 3.6 (had to fix it up a bit in 3.8 due to complaints). They don't care about 3rd party themes at all, and themes for gtk3 or shell break on every release.

https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-shell-list/2011-June/msg00110....

https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-shell-list/2011-June/msg00112....

https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-shell-list/2011-June/msg00116....

Allan Day comes off as a real jerk.
The comments in the last link about how gnome needs to maintain a brand and every install have similar look in feel are especially annoying. Funny because I love the UX in gnome shell, but need themes since stock is butt ugly. the icons are the worst, but unlike gtk3 and shell themes those themes don't break (thank god, default gnome icons will make your eyes bleed).

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RE: Comment by linux-lover
by Soulbender on Wed 3rd Jul 2013 18:14 in reply to "Comment by linux-lover"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Allan Day comes off as a real jerk.


I don't think he comes off as a jerk at all. I don't necessarily agree with everything he says but he sure isn't a jerk.
Design is not necessarily about giving people unlimited choices and customizations. Apparently the gnome3 design ethos is to provide a consistent and recognizable interface at the expense of customization. That's fine, it's a design choice. They want to focus on on making GNOME3 instantly recognizable and giving it a unique look (or brand, if you will). That certainly makes a lot of sense from some perspectives.

Edited 2013-07-03 18:25 UTC

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linux-lover Member since:
2011-04-25

But do they have to hamper customization? Every shell theme is broken every 6 months with a new release. Sometimes even going from 3.6.0 -> 3.6.1 can break a theme. Gnome doesn't care, and I find it quite annoying.

Maybe I'm just no longer the target demographic since they seem to be focusing on new users, but I don't think much of gnome's target demographic uses Linux.

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