Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 1st Jul 2013 23:07 UTC
Mozilla & Gecko clones "Mozilla today announced that the regional launches of Firefox OS smartphones will begin soon. Deutsche Telekom and Telefonica will release the first Firefox OS devices, the ALCATEL ONE TOUCH Fire and the ZTE Open, soon. Individual partners will announce specifics about launches in each market soon." Lots of soons in there.
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RE[5]: I think it's exciting
by lucas_maximus on Wed 3rd Jul 2013 08:05 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: I think it's exciting"
lucas_maximus
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2009-08-18

JavaScript developers don't want to write Dart, we want to write JavaScript thanks.

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RE[6]: I think it's exciting
by Nelson on Thu 4th Jul 2013 03:58 in reply to "RE[5]: I think it's exciting"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Which is why it is great that Dart is more than the language. More competent frameworks manage to provide powerful and fast static typing while still being able to interface with dynamic languages.

The DLR/CLR combination is an example of this, and how a unified byte code can enable more choice on the web.

I think inversely a crucial bottleneck for a lot of developers is the fact that JavaScript is a pain to work with. Prototype based OO is different, but not necessarily better from my POV.

It is a tragedy that we put up with what we put up with on the web in the name of ubiquity. Its mediocrity in my opinion. We're better than this, and there's no reason why a better solution can't be engineered.

Every pioneer has had to break compatibility at one point or another, if the web needs a disruption then the standard committees have work to do.

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

JavaScript isn't a pain to work with, what most devs do is try to program JavaScript like Java/C# because it kinda looks a bit like it.

Once you appreciate the language and program it the right way, it isn't problematic.

I don't think you get it, nobody wants to write in Dart. Dart is Google's second attempt at making GWT, nobody wanted it the first time around.

Once you know what you are doing in JavaScript it actually kinda nice to code in. Why do you think Node.js has got so popular?

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