Linked by Wes Bascas on Wed 3rd Jul 2013 11:00 UTC
Mozilla & Gecko clones Over the weekend, the crew at Tom's Hardware was busy testing the recently-released Firefox 22 using the usual bevy of benchmarks. This roundup included Chrome 27, Firefox 22, IE10, and Opera 12, along with the new Chromium-based build of Opera Next (alos known as Opera 15).
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Comment by lucas_maximus
by lucas_maximus on Wed 3rd Jul 2013 11:10 UTC
lucas_maximus
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2009-08-18

It might be faster in benchmarks, but the user interface is more clunky and prone to locking up, whereas I have never seen this behaviour in chrome.

Edited 2013-07-03 11:11 UTC

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RE: Comment by lucas_maximus
by cdude on Wed 3rd Jul 2013 11:41 in reply to "Comment by lucas_maximus"
cdude Member since:
2008-09-21

They (Firefox) worked and work on that. Try latest release.
http://dutherenverseauborddelatable.wordpress.com/2013/04/10/announ...

More at https://blog.mozilla.org/vdjeric/category/planet-mozilla/

Edited 2013-07-03 11:42 UTC

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

I am running nightly at home and latest here. Nothing has changed.

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RE: Comment by lucas_maximus
by bassbeast on Wed 3rd Jul 2013 21:57 in reply to "Comment by lucas_maximus"
bassbeast Member since:
2007-11-11

I have noticed that too and it has GOT to be the Gecko engine, because both IceDragon and Pale Moon do similar "senior moments" as I call them.

But for me it could be the fastest browser on the planet but until it supports low rights mode its just too risky for my customers. there are plenty of bugs like the "Yahoo Porn Bug" which will not work in any other browser, not even IE, that work in FF for me to give it to my customers.

Speed is fine but not when its at the cost of security and having the browser run at the same rights as the user is just dumb,especially when we are talking about a security feature that first came out in windows Vista which is about to become 4 releases ago. It would also probably be trivial to adapt low rights mode to work with AppArmor and SELinux so there really is no excuse not having such a useful security feature.

I have found a good 90% of the infections come from the browser so by having the browser run in lower rights drops infections right off the scale. No way I'm gonna risk my customers for a little speed,no way.

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RE[2]: Comment by lucas_maximus
by Fergy on Wed 3rd Jul 2013 22:44 in reply to "RE: Comment by lucas_maximus"
Fergy Member since:
2006-04-10

Speed is fine but not when its at the cost of security and having the browser run at the same rights as the user is just dumb,especially when we are talking about a security feature that first came out in windows Vista which is about to become 4 releases ago. It would also probably be trivial to adapt low rights mode to work with AppArmor and SELinux so there really is no excuse not having such a useful security feature.

So this feature only works on vista/win7/win8 with IE? It does not work on linux, winxp, macos, android? And it does not work with Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Safari?

All those users must be nuts using the web on those machines!

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

I have noticed that too and it has GOT to be the Gecko engine, because both IceDragon and Pale Moon do similar "senior moments" as I call them.


I like Firefox's user interface, I dunno what it is, but I prefer it.

But I don't use it for development other than doing CSS anymore since Chrome's tools are far better.

IE9 and 10 IMHO are more than good enough for most people. I've also got well past the stage of evangelising a better browser ... if people have problems they will ask or find a better solution.

Having slightly better performance is great and all but I think there are so many little problems with Firefox these days it is a dubious honour (and for the person who wants to know what these are they are so numerous and odd that I could not possible list them all).

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RE: Comment by lucas_maximus
by lvl21ogre on Thu 4th Jul 2013 15:18 in reply to "Comment by lucas_maximus"
lvl21ogre Member since:
2013-07-04

If we're talking anecdotes I've noticed this behavior in both Firefox and Chrome at times, but one of the big notes about Firefox performance in this review was that they've fixed a lot of their UI freezes to the point where it feels noticeably snappier.

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

I have to admit that nightly is a lot better than the stable version I use at work.

I think their mobile browser BTW is f--king amazing. So maybe their focus is there these days ... who knows.

Edited 2013-07-04 19:40 UTC

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