Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 4th Jul 2013 12:33 UTC, submitted by twitterfire
In the News "Internet users worried about their personal information being intercepted by U.S. intelligence agencies should stop using websites that send data to the United States, Germany's top security official said Wednesday." Cute, but pointless. France does it too, as does the UK. Documents from the Dutch intelligence agencies indicate that they, too, are involved in mass surveillance, the extent of which will supposedly be investigated by parliament.
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Everyone is doing it
by jared_wilkes on Thu 4th Jul 2013 15:26 UTC
jared_wilkes
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2011-04-25

Everyone is doing it. It's just that the US is the most effective (with the Chinese and Russians maybe close seconds). Heck, most of US material is coming from America's NATO allies.

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RE: Everyone is doing it
by tylerdurden on Thu 4th Jul 2013 16:28 in reply to "Everyone is doing it"
tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17

ah yes, here comes the massive cognitive dissonance of the average gringo. Glorious!

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RE[2]: Everyone is doing it
by pklausner on Thu 4th Jul 2013 16:46 in reply to "RE: Everyone is doing it"
pklausner Member since:
2009-07-23

And worst of all: the dreaded gringo is right!

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RE: Everyone is doing it
by Delgarde on Thu 4th Jul 2013 22:38 in reply to "Everyone is doing it"
Delgarde Member since:
2008-08-19

Heck, most of US material is coming from America's NATO allies.


The same allies that the US is spying on, of course... ;)

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RE: Everyone is doing it
by cmost on Fri 5th Jul 2013 15:01 in reply to "Everyone is doing it"
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2006-07-16

Everyone is doing it. It's just that the US is the most effective (with the Chinese and Russians maybe close seconds). Heck, most of US material is coming from America's NATO allies.


So if everyone decided to go jump off a cliff then you would too? Just because "everyone" is now spying on innocent civilians doesn't make it right. Apparently, most people seem alarmingly hunky dory with Big Brother and Big Corporations eavesdropping on their communications. "I don't care, I don't have anything to hide" seems to be the common sentiment. By that same sentiment, then I guess you shouldn't mind the police showing up at your door at random to conduct a search of your home, office, or vehicle either. You don't have anything to hide, right? All of this surreptitious spying has gone too far and serves little purpose other than to build a fat dossier on millions of innocent people.

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RE[2]: Everyone is doing it
by jared_wilkes on Fri 5th Jul 2013 21:07 in reply to "RE: Everyone is doing it"
jared_wilkes Member since:
2011-04-25

You are inferring a whole lot. When did I say it was okay?

Hint: I didn't, I don't think it's okay.

All I'm doing is pointing out the absurdity of claiming that international users will be safer/better off by avoiding American web sites, sites which in many cases cannot be replaced with a non-American site.

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