Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 5th Jul 2013 16:30 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "HTC has just announced its unaudited results for the second quarter 2013, and they're not pretty. Despite launching a much-lauded flagship smartphone, the HTC One, the company made just NT$1.25 billion (roughly $41 million) after tax from NT$70.7 billion ($2.35 billion) revenue. In the same quarter last year, the company took in revenue of NT$91.04 billion ($3 billion) and made NT$7.40 billion ($246 million) profit." Make the best Android phone - and perhaps, the best phone period - and still not be out of hot water. And people still claim the smartphone market is not a one-to-one replica of the desktop market. Anywho, another victim of iceberg Apple and hurricane Samsung.
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The123king
Member since:
2009-05-28

PC/Mobile

Windows/Android - Majority market share, many OEMs
Mac OS X/iOS - Respectable second spot, all hardware made by Apple
Linux/Windows Phone 8 - Is that a hair on my screen or actually a slice in the pie chart?

Yeh, because the Mobile market is not at all similar to the PC market...

If you want to go as far as monetisation, look at iTunes, Windows Store and the Mac App Store. They're all OSes running on Personal Computers and regardless of business model, they all (apart from many GNU/Linux distros) make money for their parent company.

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jared_wilkes Member since:
2011-04-25

Were you trying to show that it is the same or completely different?

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Tony Swash Member since:
2009-08-22

PC/Mobile

Windows/Android - Majority market share, many OEMs
Mac OS X/iOS - Respectable second spot, all hardware made by Apple
Linux/Windows Phone 8 - Is that a hair on my screen or actually a slice in the pie chart?

Yeh, because the Mobile market is not at all similar to the PC market...



Well for starters the outcome is completely different. In the desktop market the majority market share supported the majority of monitisation, profits and platform actvity. In the mobile device markets the opposite is true and iOS pretty well trounces Android when it comes to platform activity, monetisation and profitability (using any measure of platform of activity).

So the first conclusion one draw is that, unlike in the desktop PC era, market share is a very poor proxy in the device markets for measuring things like the degree or platform activity, health or monetisation. That in itself is pretty huge.

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Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26



Well for starters the outcome is completely different. In the desktop market the majority market share supported the majority of monitisation, profits and platform actvity. In the mobile device markets the opposite is true and iOS pretty well trounces Android when it comes to platform activity, monetisation and profitability (using any measure of platform of activity).

So basically is we use any measure of a niche gauge that nobody normally uses to gauge a platforms success, then iOS trounces Android?

I love how fanboys like yourself are constantly fiddling with statistics and shifting goal posts to re-enforce your own deluded view of the universe.

Use any normal measure (handsets sold, handsets in circulation, OS penetration, or even a 1:1 measure of the latest best sellers (iPhone 5 vs Galaxy S4) and Android consistently comes out on top.

So cut the crap about how iOS is trouncing Android with any measure chosen - when you're specifically choosing dumb measurements to suit your own narrow-mindedness.

(and for what it's worth - I really don't like the Galaxy S4 any more than you do. But there's a difference between disliking something yet respecting others choice to buy; and being too deluded to realise that your preferred platform is losing out to the Galaxy S4. Most sane people would say "so long as I still have the choice to buy my preferred platform, then let others do the same themselves". But no, instead you prefer to continually misrepresent the facts to support your own deluded world view).

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zima Member since:
2005-07-06

We're still in the early years of mobile OS wars, give it some time... (plus the factor of geography - the "small but active" OS is somewhat more popular than average in the few lavish markets)

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