Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 6th Jul 2013 11:52 UTC
Games "People who don't play video games would be forgiven if they turned on an Xbox 360 and didn't realize it was a device used to primarily play games. The first screen you see on the Xbox 360 Dashboard is often a mixture of ads for all sorts of goods and services, and many times games are in the minority of ad slots. The latest redesign increased the ad space that can be sold to advertisers, and that in turn increased this problem. Let's be clear, it is a problem. Game discovery is terrible in the current design of Xbox Live, and the usability of a system that used to be about games is suffering in order for Microsoft to make money on ads." Written a year ago by Ben Kuchera for Penny Arcade. In light of increased advertising efforts in Windows 8.1, this has become relevant once more. In a nutshell, do not count on Microsoft being able to strike a proper balance (thanks, Soulbender!).
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WorknMan
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2005-11-13

Honestly? In Windows 8, you'll never see ads, unless you use any of the shitty Metro apps they provide. But even then, the ones that have ads (like the news and weather apps) are basically glorified web pages, and the couple of times I used them, I didn't even notice the ads. I had to go back and check after I heard about it, and I found a couple of ads at the very bottom of the screen. For this reason, they don't bother me like they do on the 360, since I never saw 'em ;)

At any rate, I think the Bing search in 8.1 will be similar. Android does the same thing in that regard; do a search via the search box or Google Now, and you'll get ads with the search results.

Edited 2013-07-08 01:53 UTC

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Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Even in Metro apps there is some exaggeration going on. The advertisements are often all the way to the right, or if they are in between content they separate logical groupings of information. Its not obtrusive, obnoxious, or annoying at all.

There are just these "get off my lawn" types that will bitch about everything under the sun. The question is do they reflect a broad sentiment? I'm not convinced.

Besides, for every advertising supported app there is an ad free alternative in the Windows Store. Supply and demand at work.

Microsoft has a right to make money, they aren't a charity, and their current financial status is largely irrelevant to that. If Microsoft wants to increase the Bing team's bottom line then this is one way to do it. If you don't like it, open the app and leave feedback, but I doubt the OP will do that. Its a shame, because they may listen.

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WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

Even in Metro apps there is some exaggeration going on. The advertisements are often all the way to the right, or if they are in between content they separate logical groupings of information. Its not obtrusive, obnoxious, or annoying at all.


When it comes to ads, everybody has their own tolerance level for them. Some people will see one text ad and lose their mind. Others could be shown full-screen video ads every time they open an app, and it wouldn't really bother them.

As for me personally, I just don't want to see ads. Ever. That is, unless I'm shopping for something and go looking for them. That doesn't mean I'm a freeloader... if I can find a paid alternative without ads, I'm happy to pony up. And I often do just that. So as you can imagine, there aren't too many people who hate ads more than I do. But even I'm not going to go ape shit over ads I never see, in apps that I don't use.

On the other hand, if they started showing ads on the Start screen tiles, I'd have a real problem with that... I don't care how unobtrusive they are. I can understand accepting ads for content or services you paid nothing for, but once money is involved, the ads need to go, or else the price better be reduced. In other words, we need to train these companies that ads are something they feed us when we're not paying, not something they can shove on top of shit we're already paying for.

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