Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 8th Jul 2013 16:02 UTC
Windows "Windows 8.1 RTM will be available for OEM partners in late August. This means OEMs will be able to get the RTM bits and begin preparing devices with Windows 8.1 just in time for the holidays! We’ll have more details to share in the coming months for consumers and other customers on how to get Windows 8.1." So far, Windows 8.1 has been a massive improvement over Windows 8 on my Surface RT - except for the total system crashes (including shrieking sounds) Skype causes a few times per week.
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RE: Comment by lucas_maximus
by bassbeast on Tue 9th Jul 2013 01:33 UTC in reply to "Comment by lucas_maximus"
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Win 8.1 will fail just as Win 8 failed and the reason why is simple....its a touch UI and more than 98% of the PCs made or being made IS NOT TOUCH ENABLED!

This is like coming out with a version of windows that ONLY works well on polka dotted YOU own a polka dot PC? me neither. Hell even my local Walmart has a grand total of 2 touch enabled PCs and both suuuuck, with really weak sauce chips to try to keep the price down since large touchscreens are still a major expense.

I'm sorry Windows 8 fans but you are in a TINY minority, in fact I've had more work wiping win 8 for 7 than I had wiping Vista for XP, folks DO NOT LIKE the whole "LOL I Iz a Cellphone,LOL Appstorez" feel on Windows 8 and while i had no problem adapting even to the funkier UIs like some of the offbeat Linux or really niche like Haiku even i was bashing my head against the keyboard thanks to how inconsistent things are laid out and how badly the UI is designed. This guy lays it out better than I could ever do so I'll just leave this here..

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RE[2]: Comment by lucas_maximus
by Nelson on Tue 9th Jul 2013 02:44 in reply to "RE: Comment by lucas_maximus"
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This is an article about Windows 8.1 and the changes it brings. Have you used it?

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Got it running in a VM and its "meet the new crud,same as the old crud". watch the video i linked to previously and NAME ONE THING he mentions that is "fixed" in Win 8.1, just one.

I can tell you that you can't because it has the same problems as Win 8. Its got a VERY poorly done UI that is hard to tell what is clickable and what isn't, it takes more steps than ever to do even simple admin tasks (look how many steps it takes to boot into safe mode, its a fricking joke, went from "push F8" to 4 clicks and 2 sub-menus, all to just get safe mode) and yet again the biggest WTF is that they are STILL trying to jam touch down our throats when every.single.OEM. has already said its a DO NOT WANT and that they have warehouses full of high end touch ultrabooks nobody wants.

The simple fact is that MSFT is trying to force their way into cellphones by pushing a cellphone UI on the desktop and people HATE IT. I have stopped even carrying Win 8 in my shop because I saw people pass up nicer systems with more powerful hardware to buy one not even half as nice JUST to get Win 7, even when the pricing is identical folks would rather have Win 7.

For those that keep defending this turkey i have an analogy for you...bikes are cool,right? Bikes are slick,sexy, get good gas why aren't you driving your truck with bike handlebars instead of a steering wheel? Are YOU "that guy"? are YOU a Luddite? Of course not, you simply know that just because an input method is good in one place doesn't make it good in another and what we have here is a UI that is designed for devices held in your lap or hands and used like a book being jammed onto a big flat vertical screen and it just doesn't work, its never gonna work, and the sooner that MSFT really does copy Apple and have winPhone Metro for mobile and a real desktop or at least comes up with something designed for the form factor? its gonna keep right on flopping.

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benytocamela Member since:

Oh, come on... you're being "that guy." Don't be "that guy."

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