Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 9th Jul 2013 22:15 UTC
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y "A war between two of the major conglomerates will always have casualties, and unfortunately for us, this time we are the casualties. We aren't yet at a state where it is impossible to use Google services on Microsoft platforms, but we are moving towards a stricter ecosystem world where we might see Googlers/Gmail users on one side and Bingers/Outlook users on the other. We can only hope for the sake of technologies future and for the sake of innovation that the two companies can learn to work together in an ever expanding world of data." We can hope so, but we're talking large companies, and large companies do not care about users. Never have, never will.
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RE[2]: Google on Windows 8
by WorknMan on Wed 10th Jul 2013 01:14 UTC in reply to "RE: Google on Windows 8"
WorknMan
Member since:
2005-11-13

I guess I'm not happy with the loss of interface/features that the tablet world is bringing to destkops.


I say don't be so narrow-minded ;) When I imported Facebook contacts into one of the Metro apps (I forget which one), I get a little popup notice when somebody IMs me. I click the little window, fire off a reply, hit ALT+TAB and then back to what I was doing. Sure, it's not a full-featured desktop app, but it works well in this limited capacity, because Metro apps stay frozen in the background when they're not doing anything. Besides, installing apps like this on the desktop, having them consume RAM, along with space in the system tray is kind of a pain. Personally, I prefer using Metro for this.

Only problem is, this feature only seems to work about half the time with the built-in Metro app, which is why I'm looking forward to the native Facebook app ;)

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RE[3]: Google on Windows 8
by Nelson on Wed 10th Jul 2013 01:24 in reply to "RE[2]: Google on Windows 8"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

On the bright side, the notification API is available to Desktop applications. So an enterprising developer could technically develop something which leaves you in desktop mode with the new notifications.

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RE[4]: Google on Windows 8
by WorknMan on Wed 10th Jul 2013 03:02 in reply to "RE[3]: Google on Windows 8"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

On the bright side, the notification API is available to Desktop applications. So an enterprising developer could technically develop something which leaves you in desktop mode with the new notifications.


Yeah, that would be great ;)

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RE[3]: Google on Windows 8
by Fergy on Wed 10th Jul 2013 10:14 in reply to "RE[2]: Google on Windows 8"
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2006-04-10

Besides, installing apps like this on the desktop, having them consume RAM, along with space in the system tray is kind of a pain. Personally, I prefer using Metro for this.

$100 buys you 16GB of RAM. The worst IM program might use 0.1GB. You can have hundreds of systemtray icons and only show the ones you want to see.

I think you just want to put other choices down because you like metro.

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RE[4]: Google on Windows 8
by Kroc on Wed 10th Jul 2013 14:19 in reply to "RE[3]: Google on Windows 8"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

LOL. RAM is not the issue here, Disk IO is. The more programs you have running and the more RAM they consume the more disk IO there is, like it or not. Even with an SSD, disk IO just isn't fast enough to deal with too many / bloated programs.

Keep it simple. Running as few processes as possible makes the system Real-World^tm faster and that has been the result for the last 10 years despite constant improvements in processor speed and RAM capacities.

Go ahead, get 16 GB of RAM, turn your page file off and try running 100+ processes. I can assure you a machine with 2 GB of RAM running 20 processes will _still_ be faster.

Bloated software kills performance almost regardless of any technological improvement. The only true way to be fast is to simply load less data.

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