Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 11th Jul 2013 17:56 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu "Mir, Ubuntu's in-progress replacement for the X Window System, is being used internally at Ubuntu developer Canonical and will be available to all users in the next version of the operating system. Mir was announced in March, with Canonical saying that a new display server is needed to power the Unity interface across desktops, phones, and tablets." Anyone here experience with Mir? Is it any good? any downsides?
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Comment by lucas_maximus
by lucas_maximus on Thu 11th Jul 2013 19:16 UTC
lucas_maximus
Member since:
2009-08-18

More fragmentation ... yippie!

Kubuntu and Xubuntu won't be using Mir.

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RE: Comment by lucas_maximus
by Nelson on Thu 11th Jul 2013 19:28 in reply to "Comment by lucas_maximus"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

At least they're going to deliver, where the hell is Wayland? Right, still stuck in design by committee and mailing list.

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

That is true, but nobody else is going to use it, not even the distros built on it.

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UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

They're going to deliver alright... a half-baked new technology, and not exactly a minor change, to their core user base of clueless people who are on the same level as Microsoft's and Apple's users. Can't wait to see all the news reports of unhappy Ubuntu users when the next one is released. That seems to be a common thing to accompany Ubuntu releases, but I have a feeling it will be especially bad once Mir/XMir takes over.

I honestly can't tell if Ubuntu really thinks inexperienced users are their target as they claim, or advanced users and developers like in the case of Fedora acting as the testbed for bleeding-edge RHEL technologies. If they really want to target inexperienced users, then I have no idea why they keep foisting unfinished, not-fully-tested crap upon their users.

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drcouzelis Member since:
2010-01-11

where the hell is Wayland?

In RebeccaBlackOS:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/rebeccablackos/

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RE[2]: Comment by lucas_maximus
by orestes on Thu 11th Jul 2013 23:25 in reply to "RE: Comment by lucas_maximus"
orestes Member since:
2005-07-06

It's usable right now on several distros if you feel like installing it and last I checked both KDE and Gnome plan on supporting it natively in their next releases.

Edited 2013-07-11 23:31 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by lucas_maximus
by r_a_trip on Fri 12th Jul 2013 10:01 in reply to "RE: Comment by lucas_maximus"
r_a_trip Member since:
2005-07-06

Did you say the same thing when MS stumbled with Longhorn?

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RE[2]: Comment by lucas_maximus
by TechGeek on Sat 13th Jul 2013 02:57 in reply to "RE: Comment by lucas_maximus"
TechGeek Member since:
2006-01-14

At least they're going to deliver, where the hell is Wayland? Right, still stuck in design by committee and mailing list.



Actually the Wayland project had to make a bunch of changes to enable Mir or Wayland to work. They also haven't been out whoring up the media, preferring to wait for their project to be somewhat complete. Canonical copied what Wayland did, cooked up a couple fancy demos, and declared themselves lord and master of the almighty Mir.

As for progress, you can try GTK under Wayland in Fedora 19. And if you google images for it, you can see it actually working on Fedora 19.

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UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

At least they're going to deliver, where the hell is Wayland? Right, still stuck in design by committee and mailing list.

http://tech.slashdot.org/story/13/07/13/1357256/wayland-120-release... ;)

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RE: Comment by lucas_maximus
by moondevil on Thu 11th Jul 2013 20:37 in reply to "Comment by lucas_maximus"
moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

More fragmentation ... yippie!

Kubuntu and Xubuntu won't be using Mir.


Well, to be honest GNU/Linux is only following UNIX footsteps.

Some of us, me included, already went through this before Linus even imagined writing Linux.

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RE: Comment by lucas_maximus
by Soulbender on Fri 12th Jul 2013 01:28 in reply to "Comment by lucas_maximus"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

More fragmentation ... yippie!


More healthy competition...yippie!

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moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

"More fragmentation ... yippie!


More healthy competition...yippie!
"


Focus just on the two major distributions to avoid development costs... yippie!

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