Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 12th Jul 2013 12:01 UTC
Windows The general gist? A minor update somewhere this year, but the real update won't come until 2014. In the meantime, we'll have to... "Resuming..." ...settle for CardDAV/CalDAV support, some additional HTML5 support, and fixes for Xbox Music metadata. We were promised regular updates and an early access program for enthusiasts - but Microsoft failed to deliver, once more. For all intents and purposes, thanks... "Resuming..." ...to the switch to the Windows NT kernel, the Windows Phone we're using today has very little additional functionality to offer over what we were using on WP7 release day. I've been a Windows Phone user since WP7 release day, but Microsoft has lost me.
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RE[2]: thom....
by Wafflez on Fri 12th Jul 2013 17:59 UTC in reply to "RE: thom...."
Wafflez
Member since:
2011-06-26

Really? I'll soon upgrade my PC.

There's only two options: Microsoft and Apple. If you're suggesting Linux for pleasant and pro (like video driver crashes don't wipe out your document in word processors, starting copying file, hibernating, then waking up the PC and resuming copying file, etc.........) desktop experience, then you are the one who should be checked, seriously.

And ofcourse I'll go with Microsoft. Because for decent Apple specs I can order an "uber" PC. ;)

And "good enough"? Okay, .NET is just good enough Java? Please, I sometimes watch my collegues work with Java. So primitive.. Good enough is only in mobile space. Now. I don't care how MS was 10 years ago, I do not use that.

Edited 2013-07-12 18:00 UTC

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by Nelson on Fri 12th Jul 2013 19:53 in reply to "RE[2]: thom...."
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

People overlook the insane amount of innovation going on in many parts of Microsoft, they have a chokehold on the enterprise sector. They have incredible developer talent in DevDiv pumping out awesome tools. There's really a lot going on in the company.

Its just unfortunate that the thick rhetorical bullshit that gets posted here by some is upvoted into the clouds because Microsoft shit in someone's cornflakes apparently.

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RE[4]: thom....
by skpg on Fri 12th Jul 2013 22:39 in reply to "RE[3]: thom...."
skpg Member since:
2012-09-21

People overlook the insane amount of innovation going on in many parts of Microsoft, they have a chokehold on the enterprise sector. They have incredible developer talent in DevDiv pumping out awesome tools. There's really a lot going on in the company.

Its just unfortunate that the thick rhetorical bullshit that gets posted here by some is upvoted into the clouds because Microsoft shit in someone's cornflakes apparently.


You clearly do not understand Microsoft's monopoly. Microsoft is a monopoly because of the intellectual property laws (copyright, patents, trade secrets). Because windows is the most widely used os in the world, and because their software is protected by copyright as well as other ip laws (patents and trade secrets) there are no close substitute to the windows operating system.

Windows has 90-92% market-share with no close substitute (ie a windows like operating system). This allows ms to obtain billions of dollars every year licensing windows and office, and given that ms is a software company it cost pennies to make copies of windows, office, or any other of their software. Also their software is proprietary, meaning there is a lack of interoperability between windows and other operating systems (ie linux, bsd, os x, etc). Take directx for example. It's not cross platform, and since dx is protected by ip there is no reason for ms to make dx cross platform like opengl is, and given that developers prefer to use dx instead of opengl all the gaming support is for Windows. I would say Microsoft has 95% of the gaming support. They show all the signs of a monopoly.

All the criticisms of ms is legit, they have billions of dollars, but they are hardly innovative, they only thing ms innovative in is corruption and vendor lock-in, and making the Xbox one. They sell their software at inflated prices, Windows despite the most widely used is in the world is broken and extremely prone to security risks. And microsoft can get away with these practices because of the intellectual property laws, the source of microsoft's monopoly power.

And of course microsoft shits on your cornflakes, they shit one everyones cornflakes given that you have to use their software.

Edited 2013-07-12 22:54 UTC

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RE[4]: thom....
by tkeith on Sat 13th Jul 2013 14:12 in reply to "RE[3]: thom...."
tkeith Member since:
2010-09-01

People overlook it because we never get to see it. All we see is "forced" updates to software, and expensive software lock-in schemes. I use Microsoft products for work too, in addition to Autodesk, which is arguably worse. We wanted to use an workstation to speed up older computers in the shop, but it would have been thousands of dollars in software just because of Microsoft Office and Autodesk software requiring expensive software on top of that. Somehow to use a free piece of software and software we already license it would require $4000 in more licenses.

So whatever innovation Microsoft is making, goes unseen to most because we never see it.

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by chithanh on Sat 13th Jul 2013 20:45 in reply to "RE[3]: thom...."
chithanh Member since:
2006-06-18

People overlook the insane amount of innovation going on in many parts of Microsoft,

Microsoft innovation usually means piling layers upon layers of stuff. And even then the result is often a "me too" product that only signals customers that Microsoft still exists.

they have a chokehold on the enterprise sector.

Whoever is able to in the enterprise sector, already works on a plan B for a future without Microsoft. Their partners are defecting left and right. The poor chaps who are locked into Microsoft products and have no choice are milked dry to keep the profits up.[1]

[1] http://www.softcat.com/news/industry-news/important-changes-to-micr...

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RE[3]: thom....
by toast88 on Sat 13th Jul 2013 20:15 in reply to "RE[2]: thom...."
toast88 Member since:
2009-09-23

Really? I'll soon upgrade my PC.

There's only two options: Microsoft and Apple. If you're suggesting Linux for pleasant and pro (like video driver crashes don't wipe out your document in word processors, starting copying file, hibernating, then waking up the PC and resuming copying file, etc.........) desktop experience, then you are the one who should be checked, seriously.


Really? You are insulting people because they're not using Windows?

Son, FYI, Linux is paying many people's bills nowadays. Major companies and stock exchanges are running Linux. I haven't touched Windows for ages.

I am sorry for you if you're tied to a proprietary product, but that doesn't mean free software is bad.

Adrian

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RE[3]: thom....
by grat on Sat 13th Jul 2013 22:25 in reply to "RE[2]: thom...."
grat Member since:
2006-02-02

If you're suggesting Linux for pleasant and pro (like video driver crashes don't wipe out your document in word processors, starting copying file, hibernating, then waking up the PC and resuming copying file, etc.........) desktop experience, then you are the one who should be checked, seriously.


I don't know what spectacularly crappy computer / OS combination you've been using to base your Linux experience on, but I've been using Linux as my primary Desktop OS at work and home for more than 8 years now, and haven't encountered any of the issues you describe.

Of course, I don't grab a 10 year old computer and try to make Linux work like a brand new Windows computer, and I make sure all the hardware in my machine is well supported (typically NVidia with binary driver, because I don't really care about the difference between BSD and GPL licensing).

At work, the two applications I absolutely have to use Windows for (seriously VMWare? STILL no linux console?!?), I run within a VirtualBox VM.

There are things I don't like (Akonadi, Gnome 3), but all in all, it's a solid, reliable desktop.

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by shotsman on Sun 14th Jul 2013 07:36 in reply to "RE[2]: thom...."
shotsman Member since:
2005-07-22

Ah yes, the never ending patches on top of patches to that bugfest that is .NET.

Stable and secure it is not. Sadly not a lot different from Java.

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