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PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless A perennial question that revolves around Nokia is: why didn't it choose to go with Android to replace Symbian when it decided to kill that as its smartphone operating system in late 2010?
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Nelson
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2005-11-29

Windows Phone market share has been steadily rising, Symbians was not. Nokia also trimmed a lot of fat, they were twice as large as their nearest rivals in 2010-2011.

http://www.kantarworldpanel.com/global/News/Samsung-nears-50-share-...

Its also important to note, and you can look at my comment history, that I was arguing against a backdrop of doomsday Windows Phone comments. I never once implied all was well, only that trends were looking up and where there was smoke there was fire.

Windows Phone market share never dropped off like Symbians did, but of course, you do like to have a field day with false equivalencies.

Osborn effect is some magical fairy tale that Nokia haters tell themselves, Mr. Elop supposedly killed something that was dying a full year prior. Even before he became CEO. This is absurd.

Edited 2013-07-15 11:52 UTC

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

You didn't address my point. Symbian sales were not collapsing, despite your claims. In fact, sales were rising quite well until Elop Osbourned them - this is not up for debate; the numbers are quite crystal clear.

You seem to think that we believe that Symbian had a future and that Elop's call to kill it was a bad one - we do not. Symbian had run its course, and nobody is arguing otherwise. What we're saying is that his timing was terrible - and that, as many suspected and has now come true, he banked on the wrong platform. Again - the figures are clear.

And now, with the total lack of updates and improvements to Windows Phone, this is only going to get worse, and it will take more than megapixels to turn Nokia around.

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Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

I expect you to have a story on Nokias Q2 13 results, where they will post double digit volume growth on the day of its release.

I also will expect you to link to the article I provided which shows Windows Phone making inroads in key markets, right?

At this point, even you won't be able to deny the obvious. July 18th should be interesting. If Nokia does anything less, I'll gladly admit I was wrong and their strategy was incorrect.

But you won't be able to tell me that volume, share, and ecosystem growth means it was a bad choice.

Re: Sales vs Markershare. If you want me to admit that sales did actually rise 30%, I did, in my original reply. I did however provide insight as to why. I took your point, but the truth is much more nuanced than you let on.

I'm glad you admit Symbian was unsustainable, which makes your cheerleading of a rise in sales, and criticism of Elop a little strange.

Edited 2013-07-15 11:59 UTC

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