Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 16th Jul 2013 22:42 UTC
Legal "A diverse coalition of 19 groups announced today a lawsuit against the United States government for 'an illegal and unconstitutional program of dragnet electronic surveillance', known as the Associational Tracking Program, which collects all telephone records handled by Verizon, AT&T, and Sprint in the US. The group, represented by the Electronic Frontier Foundation, aims to compel the government to inventory and disclose the records in its possession, to destroy them, and to immediately end the surveillance program."
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RE[2]: n/t
by Alfman on Wed 17th Jul 2013 02:51 UTC in reply to "RE: n/t"
Alfman
Member since:
2011-01-28

umccullough,

"I suspect it depends on your definition of 'succeed' here."

No kidding, to us success means having the government unconditionally put a halt to it's unethical practices and in the future conduct itself transparently in a public & democratic fashion.

For the government officials responsible, success means having their spying programs and preventing the public from ever finding out about them.

As in the Bradley Manning war crime leaks, the government's response shows more interest in prosecuting whisteblowers than in addressing the abusive government powers at the source of the controversy.

Edited 2013-07-17 02:52 UTC

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RE[3]: n/t
by Kochise on Wed 17th Jul 2013 06:34 in reply to "RE[2]: n/t"
Kochise Member since:
2006-03-03

No kidding, to us success means having the government unconditionally put a halt to it's unethical practices and in the future conduct itself transparently in a public & democratic fashion.

http://treeofmamre.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/dr-evil-and-minion-l...

Come on, Snowden is shrilling...

Kochise

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RE[4]: n/t
by Alfman on Wed 17th Jul 2013 14:56 in reply to "RE[3]: n/t"
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

Kochise,

"Come on, Snowden is shrilling..."


I really don't follow...?

Anyway my opinion is that the public does have a right to know what their government is doing and that the government working for the public does have a responsibility to disclose the scope of what they're doing, otherwise it can not be democracy. While I cannot know much about Snowden's moral character, without people like him democracy doesn't have a chance in hell at succeeding. The public will be forever in the dark, subjects of a government not under the control of the people.

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