Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 17th Jul 2013 17:08 UTC
Apple "All three major Russian cellcos have stopped selling the iPhone, the most dramatic instance so far in a rising tide of operator backlash against Apple's tough contractual requirements. VimpelCom has severed its ties with the handset provider, following in the footsteps of MTS and MegaFon. VimpelCom says it has put Samsung at the top of its list of smartphones to promote under its BeeLine brand. According to PhoneArena, VimpelCom blamed 'draconian contracts' and 'harsh conditions [...] especially in the marketing department' for its decision to dump the iPhone and sign a new deal with Samsung." Apple's treatment of carriers has long been a sore point, however, carriers didn't have much choice. Now that the iPhone is by far no longer the only big money maker, carriers have more leverage.
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One of these things is not like the others
by brion on Wed 17th Jul 2013 18:52 UTC
brion
Member since:
2010-11-04

Why on earth do data carriers even have anything to do with mobile phone sales?

I don't buy a car from the people who maintain the roads; I don't buy food from the people who build kitchens and sell appliances. I don't even buy a landline phone from the phone company -- I buy it from an electronics store.

Personally I prefer to buy my mobile phones the same way, direct from the manufacturer, and pick my carrier and SIM card on my own. But, here in the US that's very much the exception...

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OSbunny Member since:
2009-05-23

Americans get gouged for cell phone service too.

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kurkosdr Member since:
2011-04-11

Why on earth do data carriers even have anything to do with mobile phone sales?

I don't buy a car from the people who maintain the roads; I don't buy food from the people who build kitchens and sell appliances. I don't even buy a landline phone from the phone company -- I buy it from an electronics store.


There were efforts by ISPs to "subsidize" PCs but failed. For some reason, customers have no problem paying full price for a dekstop or laptop, but when you tell them that the pocket computer they call a "smartphone" costs a considerable amount of money too, they freak out. "Subsidizes" should be illegal (they are in some countries), but people think they are getting a deal, or worse, that they are being "ripped off" by the SIM-free price, so they go it.

Edited 2013-07-17 22:35 UTC

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unclefester Member since:
2007-01-13

Why on earth do data carriers even have anything to do with mobile phone sales?



If the phone and carrier were separated the manufacturers and carriers would both lose. Most people would buy cheap handsets and budget plans.

The PC analogy is not really appropriate because people typically keep PCs and laptops for much longer than phones.

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AndyB Member since:
2013-03-22

Here in the UK most people seem to pick up the 'Pay through your contract' phone deals, which makes the contract higher but you pay almost nothing up front for the phone, quite often they are free up front. If you don't want a massive outlay every time you change your phone to the latest model then it makes sense to me! What's more after 18 months you generally have a perfectly good smartphone ready to sell on eBay as you've just upgraded, so you can actually get money in your pocket for upgrading, done that 3 times now!

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Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

Why on earth do data carriers even have anything to do with mobile phone sales?

I don't buy a car from the people who maintain the roads; I don't buy food from the people who build kitchens and sell appliances. I don't even buy a landline phone from the phone company -- I buy it from an electronics store.

Personally I prefer to buy my mobile phones the same way, direct from the manufacturer, and pick my carrier and SIM card on my own. But, here in the US that's very much the exception...


It's because consumers are sold on the idea that they're getting their new, top of the range, phone for free (obviously consumers still pay for it - just via the carriers contract).

So it's more akin to ISPs giving customers a free router and Sky / Cable companies giving customers a free set top box.

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JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

Subsidies

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