Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 17th Jul 2013 17:08 UTC
Apple "All three major Russian cellcos have stopped selling the iPhone, the most dramatic instance so far in a rising tide of operator backlash against Apple's tough contractual requirements. VimpelCom has severed its ties with the handset provider, following in the footsteps of MTS and MegaFon. VimpelCom says it has put Samsung at the top of its list of smartphones to promote under its BeeLine brand. According to PhoneArena, VimpelCom blamed 'draconian contracts' and 'harsh conditions [...] especially in the marketing department' for its decision to dump the iPhone and sign a new deal with Samsung." Apple's treatment of carriers has long been a sore point, however, carriers didn't have much choice. Now that the iPhone is by far no longer the only big money maker, carriers have more leverage.
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RE[5]: Marketing...
by BushLin on Wed 17th Jul 2013 22:19 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Marketing..."
BushLin
Member since:
2011-01-26

Why do you insist? I thought I was amongst those with a least a little insight into the topic which they've commented on but if you must...

It is a fact that Apple control their software platform, it makes them unique in the mobile world and is seen as a boon for consumers to not have "crap-ware" loaded by default.

Therefore when a carrier complains of Apple's marketing requirements it seems more likely that they're talking about the money they'd have to invest in additional advertising featuring only an iPhone along with their services.

For the later, you have the major carriers of a very large nation all dropping Apple and publicly talking about a deal with Samsung. This nation happens to be Russia but this would prick my ears up wherever it was.

Now take your rude abrasive manner elsewhere, there's no need.

Edited 2013-07-17 22:19 UTC

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RE[6]: Marketing...
by orfanum on Wed 17th Jul 2013 22:32 in reply to "RE[5]: Marketing..."
orfanum Member since:
2006-06-02

You are still dodging!

So, it's nothing to do with the facts as we know them about Apple's strictures, it's nothing to do with the recent opening of an online Apple store with no mark-up for carriers (as reported by someone else) but it's apparently everything to do with the surmise that Samsung is using tactics that have nothing to do with open market conditions.

I still insist. Evidence, please.

As to that, you can take your faux-mellifluous manner and stick it wherever your limited education allows you to imagine.

Orf.

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RE[7]: Marketing...
by BushLin on Wed 17th Jul 2013 22:43 in reply to "RE[6]: Marketing..."
BushLin Member since:
2011-01-26

Oh... I get it, you're assuming I'm a Apple drone defending their corporate lock-ins and I'm pinning these events on illegal activity by Samsung.

Well, I'm not. You'll find I bash them just as much as anyone for unethical practices.

I just commented on someone's observation but you came along and made it all about how smart you are. Well, congratulations on your vocabulary but at the end of the day this experience has been no different to encountering a trolling prick. Bye.

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RE[7]: Marketing...
by Yagami on Wed 17th Jul 2013 23:42 in reply to "RE[6]: Marketing..."
Yagami Member since:
2006-07-15

I applaude your search for the real truth ....

I would just love to also have it on the articles "pro apple" or "pro microsoft"

( nothing specificly directed at you , because i dont know you )

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