Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 26th Jul 2013 14:56 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "In smartphones, it's not all about Apple and Samsung anymore. For several years, these two companies have dominated the mobile phone-making business, successively one-upping each other with ever sleeker, more technologically sophisticated iPhones and Galaxy handsets that left would-be rivals grasping. But now the competition is stirring, and consumers are giving another look to brands they once ignored." Not only is Samsung now more profitable in mobile than Apple (next goalpost please), smaller Android manufacturers, such as LG, ZTE, and Lenovo, are making huge inroads, and are raking in growing profits - in fact, these three now belong to the top 5 mobile device makers. The common parlance that only Samsung is making a profit off Android is simply no longer true.
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Comment by cdude
by cdude on Fri 26th Jul 2013 15:11 UTC
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An this comes a week after Nokia's Elop changed his original "why not Android?" statement once more.

What a bad timing :-)

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RE: Comment by cdude
by Nelson on Fri 26th Jul 2013 16:10 in reply to "Comment by cdude"
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If you look at volumes shipped, Nokia is within spitting distance of those OEMs. They will crack that list before the end of the year.

According to you, they were going to be dead in Q2.

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RE[2]: Comment by cdude
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 26th Jul 2013 16:21 in reply to "RE: Comment by cdude"
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Including or excluding the rapidly declining Asha and feature phones?

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RE[2]: Comment by cdude
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Fri 26th Jul 2013 16:28 in reply to "RE: Comment by cdude"
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Its sometimes possible to be presented with a win win option, where you'll be successful regardless of which option you choose.

That's not really the point, the point the parent was making is that it wasn't the lose with android or win with Microsoft option that Elop thought it was.

I guess your point, which is masked with your blindly argumentative post, is that it wasn't a win with Android, lose with Microsoft option that many people think it was.

I'm not sure I can trust either set of numbers at this point. I'd like to wait and see how well Motorola does with the Moto X and a few more data points showing the robust health of the android manufactures as well as some more quarters of Nokia to see if windows phone adoption actually picks up enough steam to replace their former symbian revenues.

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RE[2]: Comment by cdude
by przemo_li on Sat 27th Jul 2013 07:29 in reply to "RE: Comment by cdude"
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You mean ~8mln vs ~10-14mln?

That would be spitting distance (if seen in bigger picture of whole market)


1) Nokia loose 14% per Lumia sold (in 2Q13).
2) Nokia is far behind in actual GROWTH numbers (so likely Android OEM's will outpace Nokia even more in next quater)

Will see in next Q if this trend continue, and how good Nokia is at it.

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