Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 27th Jul 2013 12:47 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "StatCounter's latest Internet Wars Report found that, in the month of June, Samsung devices accounted for 25.43 percent of smartphone Internet usage, compared to 25.09 for Apple's iPhone devices. Samsung has moved into the leadership position in smartphone web use over the course of the last year, which has seen the South Korean tech giant's share grow from 19.46 percent just 12 months ago." Android sales outpacing everything else is starting to show up in usage statistics.
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RE[2]: Interesting
by Windows Sucks on Sun 28th Jul 2013 13:35 UTC in reply to "RE: Interesting"
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They don't need to lead in sales and market share. What matters to Apple is leading in profits. And since being in business is about making money that's all that really matters.

And also if you look at the last quarter sales were up by almost 20 percent for the iPhone, where as sales were flat for Sammy on the high end.

All companies get into new segments I mean in reality Apple is a consumer electronics company that only sells 5 or so things where a company like Samsung sells 100 things and yet Apple is still huge.

Apple won't go into the low end market because they don't need to. As with the iPod before it Apple will snag the mid range market and keep the high end.

I exspect Apple to put out a phone between the $199 and $399 range with no contract. That will ramp up sales with out totally killing margins.

Also for Apple they are not looking to see phones just to see numbers. They want to sell phones that people will use to buy iTunes and click iAds and buy tons of apps etc. If you make a phone like the Nokia 520 for instance no one is going to use it to buy anything. The 520 has a 4 inch screen but the screen sucks and its barely useable.

We will see how things go. Apples earnings beat the street and they still sold a ton of iPhones and feel like they can sell more.

Sammy is the company feeling the pinch selling more and more cheap phones, losing profits on low margins and being worried about future growth. (If you listen to Samsung tell it)

Edited 2013-07-28 13:36 UTC

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RE[3]: Interesting
by unclefester on Mon 29th Jul 2013 02:59 in reply to "RE[2]: Interesting"
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They don't need to lead in sales and market share. What matters to Apple is leading in profits. And since being in business is about making money that's all that really matters.


Apple shareholders have lost $300 billion in the last year. This money will never be recovered.

And also if you look at the last quarter sales were up by almost 20 percent for the iPhone, where as sales were flat for Sammy on the high end.


iPhone shipments were up but the average margin per unit fell because people bought more 4 and 4s models.


I expect Apple to put out a phone between the $199 and $399 range with no contract. That will ramp up sales with out totally killing margins.


No. It will only cannibalize sales of higher margin phones. This is exactly what the Pad Mini did.

If you make a phone like the Nokia 52 The 520 has a 4 inch screen but the screen sucks and its barely useable.


Unmitigated bullshit. The Nokia 20 has an excellent 800x480 IPS display.

Sammy is the company feeling the pinch selling more and more cheap phones, losing profits on low margins and being worried about future growth. (If you listen to Samsung tell it)


Samsung is a massively diversified conglomerate. They could stop making phones tomorrow and still thrive.

Edited 2013-07-29 03:01 UTC

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RE[4]: Interesting
by Windows Sucks on Mon 29th Jul 2013 10:33 in reply to "RE[3]: Interesting"
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[Apple shareholders have lost $300 billion in the last year. This money will never be recovered.


That would be true IF Apple gave dividends which they never did under Steve Jobs. So the only way to make money would of been to buy low and sell high, which is what happened and was part of the stock drop.

iPhone shipments were up but the average margin per unit fell because people bought more 4 and 4s models.


True but they still made more profits then all their competitors.

No. It will only cannibalize sales of higher margin phones. This is exactly what the Pad Mini did.


They are going to lose that anyway as phone companies cut subsidies.

Unmitigated bullshit. The Nokia 20 has an excellent 800x480 IPS display.


I just bought one and though it sounds good on paper, in reality the screen sucks. The phone it's self is the only bull shit here. And it's the 520 not the "20"

Samsung is a massively diversified conglomerate. They could stop making phones tomorrow and still thrive.


I'm not talking about Samsung as a whole, I am talking about Samsung Electronics. For that division , phones are their biggest profit center!

Edited 2013-07-29 10:35 UTC

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