Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 28th Jul 2013 14:06 UTC
General Development "There is a reason I use 'old' languages like J or Lush. It's not a retro affectation; I save that for my suits. These languages are designed better than modern ones. There is some survivor bias here; nobody slings PL/1 or Cobol willingly, but modern language and package designers don't seem to learn much from the masters. Modern code monkeys don't even recognize mastery; mastery is measured in dollars or number of users, which is a poor substitute for distinguishing between what is good and what is dumb. Lady Gaga made more money than Beethoven, but, like, so what?" This isn't just a thing among programmers. The entire industry is obsessed with user numbers, number of applications, and other crap that is meaningless when you consider programming to be art. When I post a new item about some small hobby operating system, the comments will be filled with negativity because it's no Windows or iOS, whereas only ten years ago, we'd have lively discussions about the implementation details. And then people wonder why that scene has died out.
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RE[2]: Oh goody
by Soulbender on Sun 28th Jul 2013 16:29 UTC in reply to "RE: Oh goody"
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I bet I don't even have to mention it by name: PHP.

To be honest, I don't even consider PHP a proper programming language ;)

On the other hand, I'm sure we can find incredibly shitty languages from days past too.

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RE[3]: Oh goody
by Kochise on Sun 28th Jul 2013 21:02 in reply to "RE[2]: Oh goody"
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I came to functional programming language late. What a f--king miss I made : Lisp just have happens to have everything we need ! 10 more new languages every year won't change much the face of the world. Learning and mastering Lisp would :

And now for real case scenario, download QLisp and try the bundled examples : (Télécharger / Yellow left tab)

Yeah, Lisp can even perform industrial optical recognition. Not that bad from a 50's language, hu ? I would be interested to see OpenTLD converted to Lisp to have a comparison figure to chew on as well (line count and performance wise)

BTW, try Erlang... Ugly as hell (their IDE is notepad-like) but really, really wonderful under the hood.


Edited 2013-07-28 21:02 UTC

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