Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 28th Jul 2013 14:06 UTC
General Development "There is a reason I use 'old' languages like J or Lush. It's not a retro affectation; I save that for my suits. These languages are designed better than modern ones. There is some survivor bias here; nobody slings PL/1 or Cobol willingly, but modern language and package designers don't seem to learn much from the masters. Modern code monkeys don't even recognize mastery; mastery is measured in dollars or number of users, which is a poor substitute for distinguishing between what is good and what is dumb. Lady Gaga made more money than Beethoven, but, like, so what?" This isn't just a thing among programmers. The entire industry is obsessed with user numbers, number of applications, and other crap that is meaningless when you consider programming to be art. When I post a new item about some small hobby operating system, the comments will be filled with negativity because it's no Windows or iOS, whereas only ten years ago, we'd have lively discussions about the implementation details. And then people wonder why that scene has died out.
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RE: Art? Try Craft...
by lucas_maximus on Sun 28th Jul 2013 22:22 UTC in reply to "Art? Try Craft..."
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While I am sure some code can be art, and some approach it as artistry, I have yet to see good code from anyone *I* know who calls themselves that. I am less disdainful of those who call it science, but lets face it most people who call themselves computer scientists aren't actually doing science.

Programming is craft. A little artistry, a little engineering, a and a whole lot of hard work makes it a craft. My title says software engineer, but I think of myself as a craftsman. We all should really.


Programing languages are tools, we should use them like that. Carpenters don't get into arguments that philips head screwdrivers encourage bad carpentry and we should all switch to torx. They use the best took for the job. There is no one programming language for all tasks, and we should stop this fiction that one language is somehow magically "better" than all the rest.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

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