Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 6th Nov 2005 11:45 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu The Ubuntu Below Zero conference is in full momentum this week and Kubuntu has been prominent throughout. In his opening remarks at the start of the conference Ubuntu founder Mark Shuttleworth announced that he was now using Kubuntu on his desktop machine and said he wanted Kubuntu to move to a first class distribution within the Ubuntu community. Free CDs for Kubuntu through shipit should be available for the next release if the planned Live CD Installer removes the need for a separate install CD.
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Wow no GNOME vs KDE arguments so far...
by on Sun 6th Nov 2005 13:39 UTC

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Amazing.

The only reason Ubuntu gets more attention than Debian at the moment is because its easier to install. You don't have to fiddle with things, you just get what you wanted when you downloaded the CD's.

Saying "well, you can just install whatever else you want" is not policy. If a potential Ubuntu user prefers KDE, then they probably don't want to install all of GNOME, go into IRC, and ask "how do I get kde on here".

This is the whole point of the different distributions. You probably get exactly what you wanted when you install. Many people don't know about "kdebase" or "khotnewstuff" or "nautilus" or "gnomemeeting" are... they just want a system that works as they expected when they made their decision.

As for the marketing factor due to SUSE happenings, no, not true at all. Mark mentioned this at least a week ago that I know of, and its on Riddels blog for anyone that wants to see.

Jonathon has been doing some great work... Kubuntu is truely the best KDE distribution at the moment (have you seen its kde-system-settings tool?). Its getting the attention it deserves in my opinion.

I just hope Jonathon is finally getting paid, along with the other major contributors to Kubuntu, they truly deserve it. In my opinion, they are doing more work than the GNOME folks at Ubuntu. Ubuntu's GNOME is very much the same as mainstream, Kubuntu's KDE is FAR different in many ways!

Keep up the good work everyone ;)

rm6990 Member since:
2005-07-04

Ubuntu's GNOME is very much the same as mainstream

Probably because Ubuntu employs some key Gnome devs, and all of Ubuntu's work gets merged into Gnome quickly.

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Do they? (honest question)

I know a lot of key GNOME developers work for Red Hat and Ximian (well, Novell). I don't remember one that works for Canonical.

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zombie process Member since:
2005-07-08

"have you seen its kde-system-settings tool?"

Yes. It sucks ass.

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zombie process Member since:
2005-07-08

"Its getting the attention it deserves in my opinion.

I just hope Jonathon is finally getting paid, along with the other major contributors to Kubuntu, they truly deserve it. In my opinion, they are doing more work than the GNOME folks at Ubuntu. Ubuntu's GNOME is very much the same as mainstream, Kubuntu's KDE is FAR different in many ways! "


Well, I completely agree J deserves a salary -- Kubuntu has a lot going for it. However, it does have some strikes against it in my book, as I mentioned in my other post. I also dislike the new default Knoqueror, and haven't figured out how to get "Go" or "Window" back yet - I haven't really looked either, so it may be more simple than it seems.

I like and use Kubuntu, and really hope they work on ironing out existing bugs rather than making a headlong rush towards the newest bleeding edge crap for the next release (actually, this goes for ubuntu as well). Shipping a product with hal broken OOTB is badbadbad IMO.

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"Ubuntu's GNOME is very much the same as mainstream, Kubuntu's KDE is FAR different in many ways!"

Most of the paid Ubuntu guys aren't working on GNOME, just packaging it. They get paid to work on the low level stuff like the kernel and apt and the installer. Oh, and to fix bugs. It's pretty easy to build an awesome distro on top of that, it's just that the folks working on Kubuntu seem to be able to do their own thing more of the time so can move faster to make changes. If someone wants to make a UI or platform change in GNOME they have to spend time discussing it because a lot more people (and businesses) are going to see it.

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I of course mean in Ubuntu's GNOME, not upstream.

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