Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 30th Jul 2013 23:08 UTC
Google "In the net neutrality vision of the world, broadband providers simply deliver packets as they are paid to do. When it was just a set of online services, Google happened to fall on the side of citizens and used to advocate against broadband companies controlling the pipes. Now that it’s an ISP itself, Google is becoming a net neutrality hypocrite." This is why trusting companies - any company - is simply a bad idea. Companies don't care about you, and those that say they do are liars.
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WereCatf
Member since:
2006-02-15

If you want to run a business over a cheapo' residential line they are just sending the message that's not acceptable.


Then they should formulate their ToS like that. As it stands they're talking about servers of any kind -- including those personal ones. They may not do anything about personal servers, but they're not actually saying that they won't -- they're leaving the door right open.

We have an ISP here in Finland -- Sonera, that is -- that has exactly the same kind of clause and they've blocked all the most-common ports off completely, including (but not limited to) 22, 80 and 443 and they start to throttle all kinds of traffic if they notice the traffic not originating from some big-name service or website. I could definitely see Google going for the same thing eventually once they've established themselves properly as an ISP.

Edited 2013-07-31 10:35 UTC

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silviucc Member since:
2009-12-05

"Our Terms of Service prohibit running a server. However, use of applications such as multi-player gaming, video-conferencing, home security and others which may include server capabilities but are being used for legal and non-commercial purposes are acceptable and encouraged. "

Looks pretty clear to me.

https://fiber.google.com/help/

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WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

Not clear enough; servers like e.g. your own cloud-server, SSH-server, e-mail server, web-server, music-streaming server and the likes are clearly not about multiplayer gaming, not video-conferencing, not exactly home security and they do not include "server capabilities" as a part of providing other functionality -- they are servers and that's their primary role --, so are such servers allowed or disallowed? Who knows, they're not saying! All they're saying is that they're reserving themselves the ability to shut down all such activities and until they prove me wrong I'll assume the worst.

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