Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 31st Jul 2013 14:12 UTC
Internet & Networking From The Guardian:

A top secret National Security Agency program allows analysts to search with no prior authorization through vast databases containing emails, online chats and the browsing histories of millions of individuals, according to documents provided by whistleblower Edward Snowden.

The NSA boasts in training materials that the program, called XKeyscore, is its "widest reaching" system for developing intelligence from the internet.

This is not PRISM - but a different system. The slides are damning, as always.

It validates claims made by Edward Snowden, and makes it clear that US government officials have been lying all along. There's no court order required for any of this - in a supposedly modern democracy. Crazy.

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RE[3]: Comment by kwan_e
by kwan_e on Thu 1st Aug 2013 00:41 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by kwan_e"
kwan_e
Member since:
2007-02-18

"You should realise that in 21st century, guns are only effective to civilians. They are quite primitive compared to those modern weapons that governments hold.
They still are efficient at killing people. So unless your government is ran by machines .. "

They are effective at killing people. In theatres and at dark skinned people.

However, the gubmint can snoop at their emails and phone calls. If they really try to start that revolution they so promised us many times, guess who has the intelligence advantage?

Intelligence, in all senses of the word, is a better defence than cowardly gun bravado.

Edited 2013-08-01 00:41 UTC

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RE[4]: Comment by kwan_e
by bnolsen on Thu 1st Aug 2013 05:05 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by kwan_e"
bnolsen Member since:
2006-01-06

the theatre clearly posted that guns weren't allowed in their theatre. the gunman specifically went out of his way to go to that theatre instead of several closer to his house because of the sign. how long do you need to tolerate someone jumping you, beating you in the face and slamming your head in the concrete before you defend yourself. about the same time as the zimmerman shooting a black neighborhood watch guy gunned down a white kid without ever being touched and he got off with self defense.

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RE[5]: Comment by kwan_e
by kwan_e on Thu 1st Aug 2013 06:30 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by kwan_e"
kwan_e Member since:
2007-02-18

the theatre clearly posted that guns weren't allowed in their theatre. the gunman specifically went out of his way to go to that theatre instead of several closer to his house because of the sign. how long do you need to tolerate someone jumping you, beating you in the face and slamming your head in the concrete before you defend yourself.


Ah, the forever gun nut fantasy. Imagine if all those people in the theatre had a gun, they'd be able to defend themselves against the gunman! (Or maybe they'd end up killing more people by panic shooting in the dark).

If people are constantly jumping you and beating you, maybe your town should be investing in better police forces. Police presence is a better deterrent than a gun, but then, your types tend to vote against any kind of necessary taxes for the upkeep of a police force don't you?

about the same time as the zimmerman shooting a black neighborhood watch guy gunned down a white kid without ever being touched and he got off with self defense.


Please name that incident that happened at the same time as Martin/Zimmerman.

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RE[5]: Comment by kwan_e
by ezraz on Thu 1st Aug 2013 17:28 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by kwan_e"
ezraz Member since:
2012-06-20

the theatre clearly posted that guns weren't allowed in their theatre. the gunman specifically went out of his way to go to that theatre instead of several closer to his house because of the sign. how long do you need to tolerate someone jumping you, beating you in the face and slamming your head in the concrete before you defend yourself. about the same time as the zimmerman shooting a black neighborhood watch guy gunned down a white kid without ever being touched and he got off with self defense.

dude are you defending the actions and intelligence of someone who killed people in a movie theater?

have your secession in some other state than mine. us liberal "plants" are everywhere in my neighborhood.

there are many parts of the US that look up to holland, germany, and northern europe for their progressive ways. america is not all rednecks and jesus freaks.

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