Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 1st Aug 2013 09:00 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Like LG, Sony's smartphone division is now also doing quite well:

In the three months between April and June of this year, Sony saw both a "significant increase in unit sales" of its Android smartphones and an improved average selling price per handset. That's at the heart of the company's improved profitability.

The common parlance that only Samsung is profiting off Android is, as I've said before, simply no longer true. All it took for companies like LG and Sony to become profitable with Android is to, you know, stop making crap phones, and start producing good ones.

Shocker.

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RE[7]: Comment by Nelson
by acobar on Thu 1st Aug 2013 17:31 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by Nelson"
acobar
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2005-11-15

Fair enought, this is what I posted about your comment and about MS OS use.

Do you think should it pick MS mobile OS, and selling the volume they do, would Microsoft ask a little as it does now? I don't think so, and it, very probably, would have a big impact on Samsung net profit. I am not implying you, somehow, left this scenario tacit, it was only to illustrate one possible alternative and to leave, beforehand, an argument to the ones that fall toward this.

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RE[8]: Comment by Nelson
by Nelson on Thu 1st Aug 2013 19:56 in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by Nelson"
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2005-11-29

I think its a fair point, and it would depend on what consumers gauge as being "good enough".

Does Windows Phone not sell because its not "good enough" or because of structural inefficiencies in the market brought on by Samsung's dominance and Android's mindshare? Is it an awareness problems or are people who pick up Windows Phone's genuinely disliking them?

As is the case in a lot of things, I suspect the answer is a little of everything. Some people surely dislike Windows Phone, some find it too limiting, others think the app situation at the moment is a bridge too far, but others (and I'd argue a sizeable majority) of them are just not aware of it.

Therefore, it becomes in my opinion difficult to answer the question of whether Samsung could do okay by exclusively pushing Windows Phone. A company with the size and marketing power of Samsung could sell anything to anyone and make great profit on it. They control everything along the way from the chips to the screens.

I also similarly think its difficult to judge Android based off of how Sony, LG, and the other bottom feeders do. It isn't a problem tied to Android, but it is a problem tied to Samsung.

A Windows Phone buyer is making an explicit choice, and Nokia has an easier time standing out in that crowd. An Android buyer for say an HTC One still has a very hard decision to make because a Galaxy S 4 for example is still compelling in my opinion.

Samsung could plausibly at any moment sweep in and upstage Nokia in Windows Phones and wipe them out, but I don't think they are particularly interested in it now -- and in the future if Windows Phone ever grew to the point where it became interesting, Nokia would presumably have a stronger foothold and more mindshare to make it a fight worth having.

That's my read of the situation at least.

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