Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 31st Jul 2013 14:12 UTC
Internet & Networking From The Guardian:

A top secret National Security Agency program allows analysts to search with no prior authorization through vast databases containing emails, online chats and the browsing histories of millions of individuals, according to documents provided by whistleblower Edward Snowden.

The NSA boasts in training materials that the program, called XKeyscore, is its "widest reaching" system for developing intelligence from the internet.

This is not PRISM - but a different system. The slides are damning, as always.

It validates claims made by Edward Snowden, and makes it clear that US government officials have been lying all along. There's no court order required for any of this - in a supposedly modern democracy. Crazy.

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RE[3]: Comment by kwan_e
by Ravyne on Thu 1st Aug 2013 19:24 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by kwan_e"
Ravyne
Member since:
2006-01-08

If you think the gun nuts are on the side of the NSA, then you woefully misunderstand either the gun nuts, or the NSA.

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RE[4]: Comment by kwan_e
by kwan_e on Fri 2nd Aug 2013 00:13 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by kwan_e"
kwan_e Member since:
2007-02-18

If you think the gun nuts are on the side of the NSA, then you woefully misunderstand either the gun nuts, or the NSA.


Sorry, but the polls suggest that most Americans support the NSA. There is no reason to think the wider political spectrum is not reflected in the gun-toting demographic. Sure, they may be skewed more towards libertarianism, but that still a sizeable chunk of gun-toting pro-fascist nuts.

Furthermore, many gun nuts are Christian conservatives more concerned about Muslims and Atheists than they are about the government. In fact, they wish to be the government and impose their brand of religion as law.

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RE[5]: Comment by kwan_e
by Morgan on Fri 2nd Aug 2013 02:50 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by kwan_e"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

Sorry, but the polls suggest that most Americans support the NSA.


You keep saying that, but you don't cite anything to back it up. A quick search for "NSA spying poll" on startpage.com (anonymizes the search so it's not affected by what I've searched for before) shows polls with mostly anti-spying sentiment. A few examples:

https://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/07/25-12

http://www.policymic.com/articles/53767/nsa-surveillance-scandal-th...

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/06/multiple-new-polls-show-americ...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/06/12/poll-rep...

The one poll that lines up with your statement was done by MSNBC and was immediately and widely panned.

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RE[5]: Comment by kwan_e
by Dasher42 on Fri 2nd Aug 2013 11:39 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by kwan_e"
Dasher42 Member since:
2007-04-05

Sorry, but the polls suggest that most Americans support the NSA. There is no reason to think the wider political spectrum is not reflected in the gun-toting demographic. Sure, they may be skewed more towards libertarianism, but that still a sizeable chunk of gun-toting pro-fascist nuts.


The polls that are just as rigged as the elections, you mean? That's just manufactured consent. The US corporate media puts Soviet-era Pravda to shame.

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