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Five hundred years ago, our ancestors started the fight to separate church and state. Now it's time we separate corporation and state.

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Comment by ilovebeer
by ilovebeer on Sat 10th Aug 2013 17:01 UTC
ilovebeer
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2011-08-08

The quest for power & control has been around since the dawn of humanity. Further back than that really as we observe it throughout the animal kingdom as well. Our society revolves around economics and the idea of money. I simply don't believe it's possible to divorce corporate America from the American government. Even if voters could influence fundamental change, which I don't believe they can ultimately, they don't have the will to do so. We will continue to complain until the middle class has been raped into non-existence, and when that happens nobody should be surprised.

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RE: Comment by ilovebeer
by marcp on Sun 11th Aug 2013 08:48 in reply to "Comment by ilovebeer"
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2007-11-23

No other animal besides human being animal takes more than it really needs. Humanity is greedy and bastardized breed. We are freaks of nature, not the standard. We do not resemble nature's "intent" anymore. We put our deviated needs first and THEN the nature might come along. The problem is - we are nothing without nature. Without technology and money we can survive.

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RE[2]: Comment by ilovebeer
by ilovebeer on Sun 11th Aug 2013 16:39 in reply to "RE: Comment by ilovebeer"
ilovebeer Member since:
2011-08-08

No other animal besides human being animal takes more than it really needs. Humanity is greedy and bastardized breed. We are freaks of nature, not the standard. We do not resemble nature's "intent" anymore. We put our deviated needs first and THEN the nature might come along. The problem is - we are nothing without nature. Without technology and money we can survive.

You're talking about gluttony, I was talking about control and power. Those are completely different things and are not interchangeable. Also, many animals are gluttonous as well. For example, any animal that hibernates. They typically consume more than it takes for survival.

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