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President Barack Obama hosted Apple CEO Tim Cook, AT&T CEO Randall Stephenson, Google computer scientist Vint Cerf and other tech executives and civil liberties leaders on Thursday for a closed-door meeting about government surveillance, sources tell POLITICO.

Five hundred years ago, our ancestors started the fight to separate church and state. Now it's time we separate corporation and state.

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Duo sunt
by telns on Sat 10th Aug 2013 17:30 UTC
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Your history is almost perfectly backwards. Constantine stepped away from state involvement in the details and doctrine of religion in around 306. Pope Gelasius I articulated the separation of Church and state formally in the 490s (

While there was a lot of back and forth and wrangling that will happen between two powerful institutions--but they were two and not one--that basically held sway *until* about 500 years ago, when the modern states started to arise after the Reformation and established state churches (or the Protestant churches established modern states, depending on how you look at the sides of the coin).

Edited 2013-08-10 17:31 UTC

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