Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 10th Aug 2013 11:00 UTC
Legal Ed Black, President & CEO of the Computer & Communications Industry Association:

The Administration’s unprecedented decision to veto an ITC "Section 337" import ban against Apple for infringing Samsung's intellectual property is a disruptive and potentially dangerous development that calls into question the fairness of our trading regime and could undermine the way US companies are treated globally.

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Adjudication by USTR fiat, however, is unacceptable and invites other countries to do the same. While Ambassador Froman's letter cites policy issues, it offers little helpful analysis or guidance. And it ignores the ITC's determination that Apple failed to prove either that Samsung's patent was a standard-essential patent or that Samsung breached its obligation to a standards-setting organization.

Well said.

This is the core of the problem with Obama's veto. Not only did he completely and utterly contradict the findings of an expert panel of judges who investigated all the materials in great detail, he also sent out a very strong message: if you're a foreign company doing business in the US, you will be treated as a second class citizen. Combined with the endless stream of negative press concerning surveillance and which hunts for whistleblowers, the US just got a whole lot less enticing for technology companies.

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RE[9]: Comment by Stephen!
by novad on Sat 10th Aug 2013 19:55 UTC in reply to "RE[8]: Comment by Stephen!"
novad
Member since:
2010-06-10

Thank you for your insults. There was not more to expect from brainwashed fanboys.

And you are talking about rational discussion? Funny...

I allready read that document... In what way is it in contradiction with what I said?

Oh yeah... The distortion field... Sorry.

Just one last info. After that I won't answer anything else from you.

EVEN if a new veto would be pronounced to protect Samsung nothing would change regarding Apples "protection"

Samsungs hardware touched by this decision are old models barely sold in the US.

The Apple phone "saved" by the Veto (Last one was by Regan!!) is the 4th in the list of best selled phones in the US.

P.S: I find funny that each of your post is immediatly rated with 2 comments... Or you have a lot of followers (Who knows...) or you have created additional accounts to upvote yourself... Pathetic

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RE[10]: Comment by Stephen!
by Nelson on Sat 10th Aug 2013 20:35 in reply to "RE[9]: Comment by Stephen!"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Thank you for your insults. There was not more to expect from brainwashed fanboys.


I am far from an Apple fan boy. Seriously. I just come to the conversation with the reasonable expectation that you've done your homework and are open minded.


And you are talking about rational discussion? Funny...

I allready read that document... In what way is it in contradiction with what I said?


Samsung is still able to seek a remedy for the same exact patent, it wasn't invalidated or deemed non infringed. This was just the end of the line for an import ban through the ITC. They can reassert the same patent in District Court.

EVEN if a new veto would be pronounced to protect Samsung nothing would change regarding Apples "protection"

Samsungs hardware touched by this decision are old models barely sold in the US.


Well, if you actually knew anything about how ITC import bans work, you'd know that the ITC issues broad orders to the US Customs and Border Patrol regarding which devices are infringing, and the decision as to which models infringe on the patents in question are done in real time as they are imported into the country, and seized if found to infringe.

And you see, this has been the trend this entire discussion. You come here with "facts lite" which are your own stupid ass interpretations on what used to be facts and post anti-American propagandist bullshit.

Samsung does benefit from the ITC ruling, as it has SEP patent trolls with cases against it in the ITC right now. The USTR instructed the ITC to exercise discretion in SEP import bans for this and all future cases. This isn't limited to Apple in any way.


P.S: I find funny that each of your post is immediatly rated with 2 comments... Or you have a lot of followers (Who knows...) or you have created additional accounts to upvote yourself... Pathetic


You don't know how OSNews works. I have Trusted User status which means my comments immediately start off with a score of 2. Just add that to your list of stuff you're wrong about.

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RE[11]: Comment by Stephen!
by helf on Sun 11th Aug 2013 15:05 in reply to "RE[10]: Comment by Stephen!"
helf Member since:
2005-07-06

Nelson, why do you bother? You are one of the people I enjoy seeing comments from because they are usual balanced out and logical. But it has got to be painful talking to these brick walls.

I stopped coming to OSN a long time back because of the bullshit. For some reason, this morning, I typed it in and was looking around. Nothing has changed. It's even getting bad over at Ars ;)

Edited 2013-08-11 15:08 UTC

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