Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 14th Aug 2013 23:03 UTC
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Our priority is ensuring our customers get the best Xbox One experience the first day it is available. To do that, and in order to meet demand, we have adjusted the number of markets that will receive Xbox One in November to 13 markets, including Australia, Austria, Brazil, Canada, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Mexico, Spain, United Kingdom, United States and New Zealand, in November.

We remain committed to launching Xbox One in Belgium, Denmark, Finland, Netherlands, Norway, Russia, Sweden, Switzerland, as soon as possible in 2014.

And now delays. Microsoft on a roll.

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RE[2]: Slow moloch
by anda_skoa on Thu 15th Aug 2013 17:43 UTC in reply to "RE: Slow moloch"
anda_skoa
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"Like in this case assuming they still have the capabilty to launch in different EU countries at different times.


I love the way people immediately jump to the assumption that the delays mean that Microsoft is unable to release in those countries at the same time - which is clearly, indisputably wrong.
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I love the way how people jump to the conclusion that capabiltity was referring to being able to do it ;)

What I meant is that some companies thinkg they can treat different regions of the same single market like they used to treat different country markets.

I.e. they lost the capability or maybe better opportunityto not release.


Microsoft also probably realizes that consoles have a slightly longer shelf-life than, say, theatrical releases of films. A (let's say) 6-month delay for a console is not going to hurt it that much, especially for a device that's expected to be on the market for 5-10 years.

Sure, but that wasn't what I pointed at. There is no 6-month delay, the product becomes effectively available to all EU customers in November.


" "Yeah, sorry, our understanding of the European market is stuck in the 90s. This free trade thing is such a new concept, we are as surprised and shocked as you are, honestly!"


Riiiiiiiiiight, because it's not as if Microsoft's home country is part of a continent-wide free trade agreement that's been place for nearly 20 years now (*cough* NAFTA *cough*).
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You know, sarcasm.
That was exactly the point!
I suppose Microsoft doen't launch the product in California and Nevada in November and New Mexico somewhen in 2014, does it?

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RE[3]: Slow moloch
by BallmerKnowsBest on Sat 17th Aug 2013 18:52 in reply to "RE[2]: Slow moloch"
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2008-06-02

"[q]Like in this case assuming they still have the capabilty to launch in different EU countries at different times.


I love the way people immediately jump to the assumption that the delays mean that Microsoft is unable to release in those countries at the same time - which is clearly, indisputably wrong.
"
I love the way how people jump to the conclusion that capabiltity was referring to being able to do it ;) [/q]

Yes, why ever would I leap to that conclusion, just because that's how the word "capability" is specifically defined...

ca·pa·bil·i·ty, noun
the quality or state of being capable; also : ability

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/capability

What I meant is that some companies thinkg they can treat different regions of the same single market like they used to treat different country markets.

I.e. they lost the capability or maybe better opportunityto not release.


Can you at least grasp that the EU as a "single market" has some challenges to simultaneous release, that make it different from (say) the US as a "single market"? Hell, even a simultaneous release across the entirety of North America means localizing to a grand total of 3 official languages... compared to, what, 20-25 for the EU?


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Microsoft also probably realizes that consoles have a slightly longer shelf-life than, say, theatrical releases of films. A (let's say) 6-month delay for a console is not going to hurt it that much, especially for a device that's expected to be on the market for 5-10 years.

Sure, but that wasn't what I pointed at. There is no 6-month delay, the product becomes effectively available to all EU customers in November.
"

So I guess there's nothing to complain about then, is there?

"[q] "Yeah, sorry, our understanding of the European market is stuck in the 90s. This free trade thing is such a new concept, we are as surprised and shocked as you are, honestly!"


Riiiiiiiiiight, because it's not as if Microsoft's home country is part of a continent-wide free trade agreement that's been place for nearly 20 years now (*cough* NAFTA *cough*).
"

You know, sarcasm.
That was exactly the point!
I suppose Microsoft doen't launch the product in California and Nevada in November and New Mexico somewhen in 2014, does it? [/q]

Are you honestly trying to suggest that releasing a console simultaneously in 3 American states is no different than simultaneously releasing it in 8 separate EU countries?

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