Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 16th Aug 2013 16:10 UTC
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In the past two months, Microsoft and Google have been bickering over one central issue: HTML5. The Verge has learned that Google is forcing Microsoft to build its YouTube Windows Phone app in HTML5, despite its own Android and iOS versions using superior native code. Although Microsoft has offered to build ad support along with making other tweaks as Google has requested, a full HTML5 app isn't currently possible on the platform.

The difficult thing here is that Google actually has a very good case; it's their API, their service, their rules. On top of that, YouTube publishers - big and small - need to earn money from advertisements too, and incorrect implementations make that harder. Microsoft's mafia practices regarding patents, extorting companies to pay for Android use even though Microsoft has contributed zero code to Android plays a role too. Lastly, Windows Phone is essentially irrelevant with 3% market share - it's not as if Microsoft ever concerned itself with minority platforms.

Still, all this does is hurt consumers, no matter how few Windows Phone users there are. Just work this out, please, you bunch of children.

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by leech on Fri 16th Aug 2013 20:15 UTC in reply to "RE: ..."
leech
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2006-01-10

For the record, my N9 has a YouTube 'app'. From all of the youtube apps I've ever used (the ones on the PS3, the one on my LG bluray players, and my phone) the search function doesn't work the same as the youtube.com site does.

It's horrible, when you type the exact same thing in youtube.com and these apps, and get completely different results.

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by cdude on Fri 16th Aug 2013 21:49 in reply to "RE[2]: ..."
cdude Member since:
2008-09-21

It's horrible, when you type the exact same thing in youtube.com and these apps, and get completely different results.

The with the N9 delivered youtube "app" is a bookmark to youtube, not more. It displays the search-results just like any (mobile?) browser when you surf to youtube.com

For the N9 there are some 3th party youtube apps. None official. If any of them alters the search-results then its a clear violation of the youtube ToS since applications are not allowed to alter the search-results. Be happy that Google didn't pull the apps youtube-ID. Probably cause the N9 is the last of its kind and there are not enough users of the app to care plus the developer doesn't use it for advertising like Microsoft does with its youtube ToS violater.

Edited 2013-08-16 21:52 UTC

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by Nelson on Fri 16th Aug 2013 23:12 in reply to "RE[3]: ..."
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

On one hand, some people allege that WP isn't of enough importance (as if 3% of a market that grew incredibly YoY, and a doubling of sales YoY isn't substantial), on the other hand, the same people allege that there is material damages on content providers.

Google FWIW also had http://www.google.com/homepage/windows8/ this page rather early in Windows 8's development, and in fact promoted their Google Search app on Windows RT, which some people claim has had miniscule take up.

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