Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 16th Aug 2013 16:10 UTC
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In the past two months, Microsoft and Google have been bickering over one central issue: HTML5. The Verge has learned that Google is forcing Microsoft to build its YouTube Windows Phone app in HTML5, despite its own Android and iOS versions using superior native code. Although Microsoft has offered to build ad support along with making other tweaks as Google has requested, a full HTML5 app isn't currently possible on the platform.

The difficult thing here is that Google actually has a very good case; it's their API, their service, their rules. On top of that, YouTube publishers - big and small - need to earn money from advertisements too, and incorrect implementations make that harder. Microsoft's mafia practices regarding patents, extorting companies to pay for Android use even though Microsoft has contributed zero code to Android plays a role too. Lastly, Windows Phone is essentially irrelevant with 3% market share - it's not as if Microsoft ever concerned itself with minority platforms.

Still, all this does is hurt consumers, no matter how few Windows Phone users there are. Just work this out, please, you bunch of children.

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by Hiev on Fri 16th Aug 2013 21:14 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: ..."
Hiev
Member since:
2005-09-27

the iOS YouTube app is supported by Google.

Exactly, and what API does Google use for that youtube app? their native API, and they don't wan't to share that API, instead they offert a buggy HTML5 option with a downgraded experience. So they cannot compete with their Google's counterpart, that is being anti-competitive, and that is what is wrong.

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by TemporalBeing on Fri 16th Aug 2013 21:54 in reply to "RE[4]: ..."
TemporalBeing Member since:
2007-08-22

the iOS YouTube app is supported by Google.

Exactly, and what API does Google use for that youtube app? their native API, and they don't wan't to share that API, instead they offert a buggy HTML5 option with a downgraded experience. So they cannot compete with their Google's counterpart, that is being anti-competitive, and that is what is wrong.


It's not anti-competitive. Everyone has their own internal APIs - use 'em, and your software may legitimately break and you can't complain.

Google publishes an API that many can and have used without much problems. They may not always like it, but it is useful.

And in the end, it's no different than MS saying "we don't want you to use the internal API between the NT Kernel and the Win32 subsystem, just use the Win32 API", or choose your API - MS certainly has a lot of them that do that kind of thing too.

Fact is, Microsoft is getting called out for not supporting the standards that they should be supporting. Everyone else does and doesn't have an issue.

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by Hiev on Fri 16th Aug 2013 21:57 in reply to "RE[5]: ..."
Hiev Member since:
2005-09-27

It's not anti-competitive

I completely disagree.

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by JAlexoid on Mon 19th Aug 2013 09:57 in reply to "RE[4]: ..."
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2009-05-19

So they cannot compete with their Google's counterpart, that is being anti-competitive, and that is what is wrong.


What Google is doing is competition. Just because they are not providing the convenient APIs do not make them anti-competitive. Unless you believe that YouTube is a public service to which everyone should have equal access.

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