Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 20th Aug 2013 10:27 UTC, submitted by l3v1
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So. There we are. The foundation of Groklaw is over. I can't do Groklaw without your input. I was never exaggerating about that when we won awards. It really was a collaborative effort, and there is now no private way, evidently, to collaborate.

I'm really sorry that it's so. I loved doing Groklaw, and I believe we really made a significant contribution. But even that turns out to be less than we thought, or less than I hoped for, anyway. My hope was always to show you that there is beauty and safety in the rule of law, that civilization actually depends on it. How quaint.

Quaint indeed.

Groklaw is shutting down. A huge loss, as the site's contributions to various ridiculous lawsuits, like the SCO one about Linux, or the even crazier one from Oracle about Java, were invaluable. The reasons are sound, though - without secure, private communications, the collaborative effort that is Groklaw cannot function.

A sad day.

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Bill Shooter of Bul
Member since:
2006-07-14

Yeah, there are a lot of paranoid people in society that are members of just about every social group out there. Anything that confirms even a little bit of their suspicions, they freak out and assume everything they've ever suspected *must* be true. Its stupid. The implications of everything snowden revealed is what has happened over the past 10 years. So, with the government listening to everything I've been doing the consequences seem pretty trivial. Does that mean its ok for them to be listening? of course not. But if they do, it doesn't really affect my life that much. They've been pretty much okay with the things I've been doing, apparently. I shouldn't have to radically change the way I do anything, especially things that bring great benefits to other people, in order to continue doing things I already do. Its kind of a shame if I were to.

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

I might be vilified for saying this. But Larry Ellison said during his interview "The credit card companies know probably as much about you or more".

Edited 2013-08-20 19:38 UTC

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kwan_e Member since:
2007-02-18

I might be vilified for saying this. But Larry Ellison said during his interview "The credit card companies know probably as much about you or more".


Yeah, but they don't tend to illegally kidnap you from another country, imprison and torture you because your name sounds like another guy's name.

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