Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 21st Aug 2013 13:35 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless

The first production batch of Jolla smartphones has been fully booked by consumers and selected sales channels. Jolla launched its first smartphone at the #JollaLoveDay event inMay. At the same time, Jolla kicked off an online pre-order campaign, which reached its first batch limit by mid-July. Online pre-orders were received from 136 countries in all.

I'm one of those who pre-ordered, so it's good news for me. They won't reveal just how many people placed a pre-order, but they do state that a typical batch (as mentioned) is about 50000 units.

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RE[3]: Comment by Fergy
by shmerl on Wed 21st Aug 2013 18:19 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Fergy"
shmerl
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2010-06-08

Exactly, it was a pure stunt. Instead, they could do something actually useful and crowdfund the development of glibc EGL drivers for some major mobile GPU for example.

Edited 2013-08-21 18:20 UTC

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RE[4]: Comment by Fergy
by lucas_maximus on Wed 21st Aug 2013 18:52 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Fergy"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Except nobody wants to work with glibc, because they act like arseholes.

http://blog.aurel32.net/47

http://www.tuxradar.com/content/debian-ditches-glibc-eglibc

As ubuntu is based on debian moved away as well, so is little benefit of them helping to develop drivers when their OS doesn't even use it.

In any-case it is really not up to anyone except for Canonical how they invest their time and money. Their stunt btw, evidence in this comment section alone did seem to work.

Edited 2013-08-21 19:06 UTC

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RE[5]: Comment by Fergy
by shmerl on Wed 21st Aug 2013 19:47 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by Fergy"
shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

glibc changed the governance approach lately. It was an issue of the main maintainer who made all decisions in the past. Your links are old, so the situation has changed since.

Where did you see that Canonical moved away from using glibc by the way?

Sure, Canonical can do whatever they want with their stunts. I was saying that it wasn't useful for Linux in general. But that's Canonical for you.

Edited 2013-08-21 19:50 UTC

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RE[4]: Comment by Fergy
by moondevil on Wed 21st Aug 2013 22:20 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Fergy"
moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

Exactly, it was a pure stunt. Instead, they could do something actually useful and crowdfund the development of glibc EGL drivers for some major mobile GPU for example.


What has the C runtime library have to do with device drivers?!

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RE[5]: Comment by Fergy
by shmerl on Thu 22nd Aug 2013 01:46 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by Fergy"
shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

Quite a lot when it comes to some of them. Closed GPU drivers are split into the kernel and userspace parts (blobs), I guess for GPL reasons. Those blobs have dependency on libc and are highly tailored for it. I.e. bionic based blob is useless if you use glibc. And it means you'll have no accelerated graphics on that hardware. That's why such project as libhybris was created, to make a translation hack.

See:
* http://mer-project.blogspot.com/2013/04/wayland-utilizing-android-g...
* http://mer-project.blogspot.com/2013/05/wayland-utilizing-android-g...

Also, it happens that different EGL drivers are not generic, and can't be easily shared between different display servers. One for X.org is useless for Wayland and so on. So the situation with closed drivers is a complete and utter mess, and Canonical could spend time improving it. Either fund creating open drivers, or fund pushing manufacturers to produce closed ones if first option is impossible, and so on.

Edited 2013-08-22 02:04 UTC

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