Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 20th Aug 2013 10:27 UTC, submitted by l3v1
So. There we are. The foundation of Groklaw is over. I can't do Groklaw without your input. I was never exaggerating about that when we won awards. It really was a collaborative effort, and there is now no private way, evidently, to collaborate.

I'm really sorry that it's so. I loved doing Groklaw, and I believe we really made a significant contribution. But even that turns out to be less than we thought, or less than I hoped for, anyway. My hope was always to show you that there is beauty and safety in the rule of law, that civilization actually depends on it. How quaint.

Quaint indeed.

Groklaw is shutting down. A huge loss, as the site's contributions to various ridiculous lawsuits, like the SCO one about Linux, or the even crazier one from Oracle about Java, were invaluable. The reasons are sound, though - without secure, private communications, the collaborative effort that is Groklaw cannot function.

A sad day.

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by Windows Sucks on Wed 21st Aug 2013 23:14 UTC
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Honestly does anyone really believe that anything is secure? Last I checked the Internet was started by the military, Microsoft has always had back doors in their products and the NSA has been around longer then most of us have been alive.

Shoot if I was told the NSA wasn't spying on everyone on earth I would be pissed because my tax dollars would be going to waste! Lol.

Just kidding but for real email secure?? The very design of email is insecure!

And most Anericans have been under the impression that the NSA has super computers so good that they can calculate anything!

This just sounds like a way for the site to get some press!

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RE: Really?
by TechGeek on Thu 22nd Aug 2013 02:07 in reply to "Really? "
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There is a gulf of difference between something being secure and something being actively exploited, against the law, by the very government that is suppose to be upholding said laws. I don't worry about someone reading the emails I send tomorrow. I worry about every single piece of electronic communication being recorded, scanned and profiled for all eternity.

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by Windows Sucks on Thu 22nd Aug 2013 02:16 in reply to "RE: Really? "
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The only problem with that is the person you want out (The government) is the "person" who gave you the Internet in the first place.

And if any one really thinks NSA is the only or even the worst offender is blind as a bat.

Remember yes in a lot of cases the NSA is being shown to have broken US and even international laws and that needs to be addressed, but what about the Russians? The Chinese, the Iranians the North Koreans? Who spy on their own people as public policy? If you don't think any and probably all of them are doing as much or even more, yeah ok. Lol.

Like I said with all this going on I would be pissed if the NSA wasn't spying like crazy, I would feel like my tax dollars are being wasted! Lol

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