Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 22nd Aug 2013 22:18 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless

"BlackBerry has a thriving ecosystem with BlackBerry 10." That's what CEO Thorsten Heins said this May at a developer conference before revealing that users had a choice of 120,000 apps from its still-young app market, BlackBerry World. The problem is that over a third of those apps come from a single developer. Yes, a Hong Kong-based company called S4BB has published just under 47,000 apps to BlackBerry World since launch. That's not a good sign of a "thriving ecosystem."

This is what happens when the technology press lets itself be dictated by companies. The companies were the ones who started touting quantity over quality when it comes to mobile application stores, and the press played right into their hands. In a statement to The Verge, BlackBerry confirms the issue, but states that it's not actually an issue at all. Of course they say that. They want to keep touting that number.

Companies wanted this to be a numbers game, and now it is. Go into any mobile application store, and 99.9% of the applications in it are crap. Comparing numbers reveals nothing. It never has, and never will.

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Comment by Nelson
by Nelson on Fri 23rd Aug 2013 03:06 UTC
Nelson
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2005-11-29

This isn't something that BBRY appreciates or necessarily intended to happen, its a "developer" gaming the system by manufacturing template apps in order to extract revenue.

It happens on all app stores to varying degrees, on the BB10 marketplace it is obviously an extreme.

What is telling from this though is the true state of affairs for the BB10 ecosystem, and that is that there has been no uptake. That's despite there being an approach that many on this website have been advocating.

Here we are, and BBRY is smoldering. The antithesis to Nokia. They choose their OS over Windows Phone, tried to bootstrap an ecosystem on their own, and seem to be completely failing. The company will likely end up being split up and sold for parts (again, what some argued would happen to NOK, but has not.)

What's significant is that it shows that the struggles in the mobile space are not due to the choice of an OS, but due to structural inefficiencies in the market. Its hard to gain a foothold, much less without a boatload of cash and persistence. Microsoft is having a hell of a time with unlimited money, BBRY certainly wasn't going to last long enough to make a long term play without some decent momentum.

There was hope (in fact hope I took seriously) that they did have this momentum. Successful "port-a-thons", a decent OS, existing mindshare, etc. However it seems in hindsight that those were hollow advantages.

They proudly thumbed their nose at Windows Phone last year, and now they embarrassingly put themselves up for sale for trying to do the impossible and failing. Meanwhile, Nokia, that reviled evil company run by that mean Trojan horse CEO is poised to increase their volumes sequentially. Again.

Edited 2013-08-23 03:07 UTC

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RE: Comment by Nelson
by Kivada on Fri 23rd Aug 2013 04:03 in reply to "Comment by Nelson"
Kivada Member since:
2010-07-07

Since when is Windows Phone and RT not a smoldering pile of failure? Crackberry is no better, but neither is doing particularly well.

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RE[2]: Comment by Nelson
by Nelson on Fri 23rd Aug 2013 10:17 in reply to "RE: Comment by Nelson"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Since the volumes for Windows Phone seriously started taking off towards the end of last year and the beginning of this year.

How many quarters in a row does Nokia need to post double digit percentage increases to break your narrative?

They are poised to increase volumes again in Q3 significantly, all on the eve of even more product launches in Q4 and the holiday season.

So while Nokia is releasing new phones, apps, and updates every two months, there's no guarantee BBRY will be here as we know it two months from now.

People here need to put down their Windows hater glasses and start thinking critically. I must admit, I've been thoroughly enjoying the unraveling of peoples preconceived notions as Nokia pushes forward.

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RE: Comment by Nelson
by ilovebeer on Fri 23rd Aug 2013 04:13 in reply to "Comment by Nelson"
ilovebeer Member since:
2011-08-08

What's significant is that it shows that the struggles in the mobile space are not due to the choice of an OS, but due to structural inefficiencies in the market. Its hard to gain a foothold, much less without a boatload of cash and persistence. Microsoft is having a hell of a time with unlimited money, BBRY certainly wasn't going to last long enough to make a long term play without some decent momentum.

It's more complex than being just a money game. And also the fact that Microsoft is struggling has more to do with absolutely horrible leadership than it does anything else. If they had good people making good decisions, they wouldn't be blowing through piles of cash.

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RE[2]: Comment by Nelson
by Nelson on Fri 23rd Aug 2013 10:19 in reply to "RE: Comment by Nelson"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

It depends, some bad decisions were more consequential than others. I think it is a valid point to, I just don't know how large of a difference itd make, or if they'd be spending a lot less as a result.

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