Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 28th Aug 2013 20:47 UTC
Games

The new Nintendo 2DS system gives you all the features of the Nintendo 3DS and Nintendo 3DS XL, minus 3D viewing. And the price makes the world of Nintendo games even more accessible.

Curiously enough, the 2DS actually has only one screen - it's divided in two by the casing. The entire screen is touch-capable, but the top screen is covered by plastic so you can't touch it there. Like the Wii U's controller, this thing just looks weird and unwieldily, and while the price is nice, I doubt it will turn Nintendo's fortunes around.

Imagine a phone and/or tablet designed and built by Nintendo, with a proper integrated gamepad, capable of output to external displays, with access to Nintendo's entire back catalog of games - from the NES, through the Game Boy, SNES, Nintendo64, GameCube, DS, and Wii (if compatible with non-motion controls). Of course, new games can be published as well.

Nintendo should not be making yet another device to carry aside from your phone. They should be making a phone.

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RE[2]: No...
by UltraZelda64 on Wed 28th Aug 2013 23:10 UTC in reply to "RE: No..."
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I guess that's why you can't surf the internet and watch Netflix with a Wii eh?

Which, along with the Opera browser, is available as an optional download, and I happily ignored them both. My Wii is both Netflix- and Opera-free, and I like it that way. There are better ways to access a web browser and a Internet video streaming service than a video game console.

Last time I checked, my kids' DSi and 3DS both had wifi and internet surfing - in addition to a camera and SD card slot.

I wasn't too much a fan of those features when I originally heard of them and I do not own either system, but the point still stands: Nintendo has strayed far less from the original video game console vision than their main competitors. Can you play DVDs on your Wii? Thankfully not, otherwise you would (in my case unwillingly) be paying for a license just for the privilege of decoding the DRM.

That said, I don't know what Nintendo's doing with the camera on those DS variants, but if their past is any indication I'm sure they've found some way to have fun by making games that use the camera. They did this with the Game Boy Camera years ago, and if anyone can pull such a thing off (making a fun game out of something as plain and boring as a camera), it's Nintendo.

SD cards could just as easily be used for game saves or something similar, or downloaded games, so I'm not sure how the fact that it has an SD card is "bad" or "non-gaming." You've got to store data somehow--in the past it was in the EEPROM of the game cartridge itself, and later on proprietary memory cards. Now they just use more standardized memory cards which just happen to also be used in cameras and camcorders, in TVs, in digital audio players, etc. Not sure how that's a bad thing.

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RE[3]: No...
by umccullough on Thu 29th Aug 2013 00:07 in reply to "RE[2]: No..."
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2006-01-26

Which, along with the Opera browser, is available as an optional download, and I happily ignored them both. My Wii is both Netflix- and Opera-free, and I like it that way. There are better ways to access a web browser and a Internet video streaming service than a video game console.


Actually, I've heard the Netflix implementation for Wii is superior to other gaming devices...

Personally, I run an old original Xbox with XBMC for streaming movies off my NAS - it works great. The fact that it can run a multitude of emulators is also a bonus.

Unfortunately, it can't playback high definition compressed videos, so I'll probably demote it soon. I'll either replace it with a hacked XB360, or some other device which is flexible enough to do more than "just play games". Sorry, but the days of having a multitude of devices attached to a TV (which are basically just large computer monitors), is over. I'd rather not waste money and space on a bunch of dedicated devices when something size of a pack of gum can do everything I want.

I wasn't too much a fan of those features when I originally heard of them and I do not own either system, but the point still stands: Nintendo has strayed far less from the original video game console vision than their main competitors. Can you play DVDs on your Wii? Thankfully not, otherwise you would (in my case unwillingly) be paying for a license just for the privilege of decoding the DRM.


I don't play DVDs any longer anyway. I stream most of my video... in case you didn't notice, the world has changed.

SD cards could just as easily be used for game saves or something similar, or downloaded games, so I'm not sure how the fact that it has an SD card is "bad" or "non-gaming." You've got to store data somehow--in the past it was in the EEPROM of the game cartridge itself, and later on proprietary memory cards. Now they just use more standardized memory cards which just happen to also be used in cameras and camcorders, in TVs, in digital audio players, etc. Not sure how that's a bad thing.


Amusingly, you sort of made my point. These days, the technology in a handheld gaming device is all standardized - it's the same stuff you find in every other device. Why limit its usage to one task, when it can clearly do more?

Yes, the SD cards allow downloading of games (and other applications) for the DS. There's an "app store", just like phones, tablets, etc.

You must have missed it - at this point, a 3DS is just a crippled mini-tablet computer with some extra buttons.

My kids already use my 10" HP Touchpad running android far more than they use the DS's - and that trend will continue. If Nintendo doesn't jump on board, they'll miss the boat entirely. I'm already considering buying my kids some 7" Android tablets when the price/features become compelling enough.

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RE[4]: No...
by UltraZelda64 on Thu 29th Aug 2013 01:34 in reply to "RE[3]: No..."
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2006-12-05

I don't play DVDs any longer anyway. I stream most of my video... in case you didn't notice, the world has changed.

The Wii was released in 2006. DVD was most definitely still being used quite a bit back then. I remember the fits of rage people threw back then when they found out that it would not play them, and I rejoiced, happy that Nintendo was sticking to its core and not forcing me to pay for extra crap that I perceive as useless and unwanted. After all--I already had a nice 5-disc DVD player, and had no desire to place extra wear and tear on the optical disc drive of my video game system.

Amusingly, you sort of made my point. These days, the technology in a handheld gaming device is all standardized - it's the same stuff you find in every other device. Why limit its usage to one task, when it can clearly do more?

Yes... we might as well have our cars brew our coffee, toast our bread, pour our beer, download our porn and torrents, and wake us up in the morning too. Hey, why not? But really, this is a storage device we're talking about here. If people want to load theirs with pictures, fine, but I won't. Not the one I use in my Wii, at least. I would have a dedicated card for that, and most likely a dedicated device to primarily use it with.

You must have missed it - at this point, a 3DS is just a crippled mini-tablet computer with some extra buttons.

I thought I already mentioned that I was not a fan of that system? Or maybe I just said that I don't own one, I don't remember and don't really care. Well, either way, I was never too thrilled with the 3DS' extra "non-gaming" features. I have slammed it in the past. Now, I just don't care, because I have got out of portable gaming. I just can't bring myself to sit cramped staring at a tiny screen with crappy speakers.

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RE[4]: No...
by bassbeast on Thu 29th Aug 2013 21:43 in reply to "RE[3]: No..."
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2007-11-11

Ever think about trying an HTPC? The AMD Bobcat based are ultra low power and have no problem playing 1080P or if you want something with a little more muscle the FM2 APU chips can be had for a song and the crazy cheap Athlon X3s which are great for HTPCs and have enough oomph to play most games easily.

For those that want an HTPC that can game I usually go for an Athlon X3 or X4 with an HD7750, this combo when paired with Steam's big picture mode make for a nice gaming platform and the nice thing about HTPCs is how many jobs they can perform well, gaming, streaming, chat, surfing, I even have had a customer use his for an office box while he waited on a part for his office PC. Finally add one of those lenovo handheld keyboard remotes and you have a system that is easy to use as a console but not limited to only a few tasks.

But I have to agree about the one trick ponies, i ended up giving my DS away to my GF's grandchild because I never seemed to have the thing on me when i was stuck waiting somewhere and could have used the distraction but I always have my Android phone in my pocket so i ended up loading some games into it instead. While having dedicated buttons is nice having to carry another device simply wasn't worth it and the new Android phones play games very well.

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