Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 28th Aug 2013 20:47 UTC
Games

The new Nintendo 2DS system gives you all the features of the Nintendo 3DS and Nintendo 3DS XL, minus 3D viewing. And the price makes the world of Nintendo games even more accessible.

Curiously enough, the 2DS actually has only one screen - it's divided in two by the casing. The entire screen is touch-capable, but the top screen is covered by plastic so you can't touch it there. Like the Wii U's controller, this thing just looks weird and unwieldily, and while the price is nice, I doubt it will turn Nintendo's fortunes around.

Imagine a phone and/or tablet designed and built by Nintendo, with a proper integrated gamepad, capable of output to external displays, with access to Nintendo's entire back catalog of games - from the NES, through the Game Boy, SNES, Nintendo64, GameCube, DS, and Wii (if compatible with non-motion controls). Of course, new games can be published as well.

Nintendo should not be making yet another device to carry aside from your phone. They should be making a phone.

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RE: Comment by Drumhellar
by orestes on Thu 29th Aug 2013 00:00 UTC in reply to "Comment by Drumhellar"
orestes
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2005-07-06

I'm going to agree. I want a gaming system, not an all in one convergence whore's wet dream. No stupid gimmicks, no trying to go retro for retro's sake, no additional "services" to nickle and dime with and not one single goddamned facebook/twitter/whatever connection.

I want something defiantly single minded in it's pursuit of gaming. Just games, on the best available hardware for the pricepoint is what Nintendo needs to pursue.

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RE[2]: Comment by Drumhellar
by galvanash on Thu 29th Aug 2013 01:28 in reply to "RE: Comment by Drumhellar"
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2006-01-25

I'm going to agree. I want a gaming system, not an all in one convergence whore's wet dream.


Well that's you and the guy you replied to... Sorry but the rest of the world already decided they no longer really want "pure" portable gaming systems. Hell, they don't even want console gaming systems that only play games.

If Sony and Microsoft hadn't embraced media playback, social networking features, etc. they would be dying off too. The only reason consoles are still relevant is because they offer convergence features - a pure gaming console is a completely dead concept.

As for portables, it is even a bigger problem to be "pure gaming" because it completely ignores half the market - girls... Girls don't want games, they want instagram, they want a phone, and boys eventually like girls, hence they end up being dragged along at some point...

If you take the total global sales of tablets, iPod Touch and the like, and phones sold for kids age 6-16 you get at least 25 million units a year - that is bigger than the entire portable gaming market by nearly two-fold...

The trick isn't to make a better gaming device, the trick is making convergence devices better at gaming...

I would go one step further than Thom... Nintendo doesn't need to make a phone - they need to figure out how to make Android better at gaming. Its too late for yet another custom platform - its either Android or they may as well quit. Because if they don't do it someone else will and soon enough there will be an Android device that is good at gaming (and can do all the other stuff too)...

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RE[3]: Comment by Drumhellar
by Kivada on Thu 29th Aug 2013 01:54 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Drumhellar"
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2010-07-07

No, Sony and Microsoft are the ones shooting off their own feet with all the crap they pull with their networks with all of the advertising and letting the price of games sky rocket especially while the game devs nickel and dime the customers with DLC.

They can't really compete with computer gaming for once now that Steam, GOG, Desura and the rest put up sales of excellent games for as little as $2.50 fairly regularly.

Online connectivity is what has allowed the console market to eat itself alive with it's own greed.

I'm sure any of you that grew up playing multiplayer console games like I did with their friends on consoles like the SNES, Genesis, Saturn, Playstation, Dreamcast, PS2 and N64 remember gaming with their friends being a full contact sport, with elbowing, kicking, foot stomping and controller slapping all being part of the fun.

The guys I used to game with we literally wore through the discs on games like King Of Fighters '99, Armored Core 2, Virtua Fighter 2, Tobal and destroyed controllers playing WWF Raw Is War and NBA Jam and you know damn well you and every one of your friends will swear TO THIS VERY DAY that turning the controller sideways and extending your arms away from the direction of the turn while leaning the rest of your body and extending your neck into the direction of the turn MADE YOU GO FASTER, PHYSICS AND GAME MECHANICS BE DAMNED!

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RE[3]: Comment by Drumhellar
by ichi on Thu 29th Aug 2013 11:03 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Drumhellar"
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2007-03-06

Well that's you and the guy you replied to... Sorry but the rest of the world already decided they no longer really want "pure" portable gaming systems. Hell, they don't even want console gaming systems that only play games.


Is there any statistic about people's usage (or desire for) non gaming features in game consoles? (portable or not).

It's obvious that the market is heading there, but I'm not really sure about that being a decision driven by customer needs/requests or those of content producers.

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RE[3]: Comment by Drumhellar
by orestes on Thu 29th Aug 2013 11:26 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Drumhellar"
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2005-07-06

By the "rest of the world" you mean the bobbleheads in marketing and the non-gamers commenting on markets they aren't actually a part of.

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RE[3]: Comment by Drumhellar
by Soulbender on Thu 29th Aug 2013 15:59 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Drumhellar"
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2005-08-18

Girls don't want games, they want instagram, they want a phone, and boys eventually like girls


Stereotypes are awesome.

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