Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 28th Aug 2013 20:47 UTC
Games

The new Nintendo 2DS system gives you all the features of the Nintendo 3DS and Nintendo 3DS XL, minus 3D viewing. And the price makes the world of Nintendo games even more accessible.

Curiously enough, the 2DS actually has only one screen - it's divided in two by the casing. The entire screen is touch-capable, but the top screen is covered by plastic so you can't touch it there. Like the Wii U's controller, this thing just looks weird and unwieldily, and while the price is nice, I doubt it will turn Nintendo's fortunes around.

Imagine a phone and/or tablet designed and built by Nintendo, with a proper integrated gamepad, capable of output to external displays, with access to Nintendo's entire back catalog of games - from the NES, through the Game Boy, SNES, Nintendo64, GameCube, DS, and Wii (if compatible with non-motion controls). Of course, new games can be published as well.

Nintendo should not be making yet another device to carry aside from your phone. They should be making a phone.

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I do like Nintendo
by TM99 on Thu 29th Aug 2013 09:12 UTC
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2012-08-26

This is a great device and gamers will love it.

Why?

The price is right. You can get two of these 2DS' for the price of one 3DS. For families on a budget, this is a big plus.

Those who still have a DS, DSL, or DSi, like myself, can get an affordable upgrade that allows us access to the 3DS library.

The screen resolution on the 3DS & 2DS is better than the DSL, so that is a plus.

From the video's I have seen, the console sits well in young and old hands. I rarely have concerns with controller designs with Nintendo products.

Finally, I am glad it is just a gaming device. Some argue that the people want a convergence. No, the market wants this convergence & is pushing it. I meet very few who truly want every damned device they own to run Facebook, Instagram & Netflix. This idea of a one device to rule them all is a corporate walled-garden wet dream, but is not in the interest of consumers.

The argument that no one wants multiple devices on their TV's must be younger than 20. If you wanted decent music 25 years ago, a single boombox was not the answer. It was a component stereo system. If you wanted higher quality video on your TV, it wasn't an all in one, it was components (VCR, Laser Disc, DVD, etc.). Those of us old enough to have used consumer electronics for quite some time know that all in one devices are always cheaper & of lesser quality. This is still true today. A high quality receiver and speakers are still better than a soundstick attached to the TV directly. A high quality stand alone CD player with receiver and speakers is still better than an iPod attached to a portable speaker.

Back on topic, I applaud Nintendo for being the only gaming company left to stay focused just on gaming. I will support them with two purchases - a 2DS & a WiiU - before the end of the year. ;)

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RE: I do like Nintendo
by umccullough on Thu 29th Aug 2013 15:37 in reply to "I do like Nintendo"
umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26

A high quality receiver and speakers are still better than a soundstick attached to the TV directly. A high quality stand alone CD player with receiver and speakers is still better than an iPod attached to a portable speaker.


I don't think anyone's arguing that a peizo speaker is better than a set of surround speakers, a sub, and a huge amp to drive it - but do you really need a ton of components?

For example, does anyone, in their right mind, need to buy a CD player if they already have a DVD player with digital audio output? Take that the next step - is it really necessary to have a dedicated DVD player if your game console plays DVDs and supports HDMI? Are you gaining something important by having a separate dedicated player with its own remote?

And in the era of streaming audio/video, where one can rip their music/video to a large HD sitting in another room, does one really need anything more than a simple media player with a nice browsing interface attached to their TV and receiver?

Don't project your stereotypical "must be less than 20" crap on me either - I've probably got enough A/V equipment lying around to choke a garbage truck - but most of it sits collecting dust these days as I've moved most of my content to my NAS.

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RE[2]: I do like Nintendo
by Kivada on Thu 29th Aug 2013 17:06 in reply to "RE: I do like Nintendo"
Kivada Member since:
2010-07-07

I don't think anyone's arguing that a peizo speaker is better than a set of surround speakers, a sub, and a huge amp to drive it - but do you really need a ton of components?

For example, does anyone, in their right mind, need to buy a CD player if they already have a DVD player with digital audio output? Take that the next step - is it really necessary to have a dedicated DVD player if your game console plays DVDs and supports HDMI? Are you gaining something important by having a separate dedicated player with its own remote?

And in the era of streaming audio/video, where one can rip their music/video to a large HD sitting in another room, does one really need anything more than a simple media player with a nice browsing interface attached to their TV and receiver?

Don't project your stereotypical "must be less than 20" crap on me either - I've probably got enough A/V equipment lying around to choke a garbage truck - but most of it sits collecting dust these days as I've moved most of my content to my NAS.


Yes, you want a high end component surround sound setup that is accurate enough to hear a mouse fart in the wall of a bar scene in a movie that is also powerful enough to rattle the fillings out of your teeth when you play your favorite war game.

Yes, you want a good dedicated DVD player that has a good upscaler for your HDTV.

Playing your audio of the comp only makes sense if you care about quality and only have .flac files. I'm no audiophile, I can however tell the difference between a 320kbps MP3 and a ripped from the CD flac.

If a craptacular all in one device is your thing then use a phablet for all of your computing, entertainment and communications needs. It's the lamest jack of all trades and master of none there is.

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RE[2]: I do like Nintendo
by TM99 on Thu 29th Aug 2013 20:27 in reply to "RE: I do like Nintendo"
TM99 Member since:
2012-08-26

A statement of fact that most in their 20's did not grow up with dedicated audio equipment is not stereotypical nor is it bashing. So chill the fuck out dude!

Kivada covered most of the points I would have made in reply so no need to reiterate those now.

But I will say that streaming audio, unless it is lossless, is not in any way the same as playing a Mobile Fidelity Jethro Tull Aqualung CD on a dedicated system.

Sorry, it just isn't.

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RE: I do like Nintendo
by Soulbender on Thu 29th Aug 2013 19:28 in reply to "I do like Nintendo"
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2005-08-18

A high quality stand alone CD player with receiver and speakers is still better than an iPod attached to a portable speaker.


Noooooo...really? You don't say. You realize they serve two different needs right? Or do you bring your speaker and amp rig with you wherever you go?
Of course, once you connect the IPod to a real speaker and amp there's not really any noticeable difference. As a bonus you don't have to change CD's all the time.

Edited 2013-08-29 19:31 UTC

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RE[2]: I do like Nintendo
by TM99 on Thu 29th Aug 2013 20:12 in reply to "RE: I do like Nintendo"
TM99 Member since:
2012-08-26

Of course, once you connect the IPod to a real speaker and amp there's not really any noticeable difference. As a bonus you don't have to change CD's all the time.


Bullshit. There is a significantly noticeable difference.

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RE[2]: I do like Nintendo
by Kivada on Thu 29th Aug 2013 21:51 in reply to "RE: I do like Nintendo"
Kivada Member since:
2010-07-07

Actually after the first iirc 3 revisions of the iPod Apple started cheaping out on the output hardware, that and name me the iPod that handles Flac natively.

You don't keep a decent portable sound system in your car? I've been looking at the Boominator design http://imgur.com/a/bbRhJ as a base for my own solar speaker setup. For woodland raving and such.

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RE: I do like Nintendo
by Yoko_T on Thu 29th Aug 2013 21:24 in reply to "I do like Nintendo"
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2011-08-18

Those of us old enough to have used consumer electronics for quite some time know that all in one devices are always cheaper & of lesser quality. This is still true today. A high quality receiver and speakers are still better than a soundstick attached to the TV directly. A high quality stand alone CD player with receiver and speakers is still better than an iPod attached to a portable speaker.

Also if something with a all in one device breaks, you're screwed especially if it can't be/costs too much to get fixed.

Don't know how many people are stuck with a combo TV/DVD set where the DVD player on it isn't working for one reason or another.

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