Linked by Howard Fosdick on Thu 29th Aug 2013 03:50 UTC
QNX According to a Computerworld article, BlackBerry is exploring putting itself up for sale, as the company falls into 4th place in the mobile market. IDC statistics that show Android leads the mobile market with nearly 80%, iOS has 13.2%, Windows Phone 3.7%, and BlackBerry 2.9%. Gartner analyst Bill Menezes states that even new ownership is "not going to address how the company restores itself."

One key asset BlackBerry owns is QNX, the real-time based OS it bought in 2010. QNX is microkernel based, versus the monolithic kernel used by many OS's like Linux. BlackBerry bases its tablet and phone OS's on QNX, which also remains a popular commercial OS for embedded systems.
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RE: Comment by Nelson
by dpJudas on Thu 29th Aug 2013 11:44 UTC in reply to "Comment by Nelson"
dpJudas
Member since:
2009-12-10

BBRY needed a strong partner with loads of cash, but they stubbornly and foolishly turned down Microsofts olive branch. Now they will die, Nokia will live, and the Canadian former powerhouse will be picked apart by the vultures.


Only Nelson could write something like this while keeping a straight face.

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RE[2]: Comment by Nelson
by Nelson on Thu 29th Aug 2013 12:08 in reply to "RE: Comment by Nelson"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Nokia outsold BBRY and has been posting double digit gains for three consecutive quarters. If the trend continues, they'll crack the Top 5 OEMs before the year ends. All indicators suggest the trend will indeed continue into Q3.

Meanwhile BBRY will go the way of Palm. Inconvenient truth for you or not, but that's how things are going.

This is what Nokia would be going through had they stuck with MeeGo.

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RE[3]: Comment by Nelson
by dpJudas on Thu 29th Aug 2013 22:52 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Nelson"
dpJudas Member since:
2009-12-10

Nokia outsold BBRY and has been posting double digit gains for three consecutive quarters. If the trend continues, they'll crack the Top 5 OEMs before the year ends. All indicators suggest the trend will indeed continue into Q3.

Meanwhile BBRY will go the way of Palm. Inconvenient truth for you or not, but that's how things are going.

This is what Nokia would be going through had they stuck with MeeGo.


I have no stake in Blackberry or in MeeGo. What I found amusing about your line was the way that you see everything-Microsoft as good/superior. By the way, that doesn't have to mean you are wrong, although I think the long term verdict of both WinPhone and Nokia is still to be seen.

What would have happened if BBRY had chosen WinPhone, or if Nokia and BBRY had both chosen to do Android phones we will never know. Likewise it is hard to predict the outcome if a much larger player like Nokia had seriously pushed MeeGo phones. Yet you managed to state as fact in one line the only true solution. ;)

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RE[3]: Comment by Nelson
by bert64 on Fri 30th Aug 2013 16:42 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Nelson"
bert64 Member since:
2007-04-23

Getting back into the top 5? Nokia were number 1 in phones for many years, so overall they have fallen a huge way.

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RE[3]: Comment by Nelson
by pgquiles on Sat 31st Aug 2013 23:38 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Nelson"
pgquiles Member since:
2006-07-16

This is what Nokia would be going through had they stuck with MeeGo.


Huh? No, let me get this straight to you, from a developer point of view.

Every developer on Earth was on bed with Nokia going MeeGo and Qt. Everybody. We were all delighted because the portability of Qt meant we could develop a single C++ codebase and reuse most of it. You could have gone and ask the top 1,000 development houses and they all had said "yes, we are going to develop for MeeGo" without blinking.

Now, when Nokia decided to change from MeeGo to Windows Phone 7.5, 99% of the developers thought Nokia was crazy. They lost most of the developer community and nobody can tell me otherwise because I saw it from inside!

WP 7.5 required to develop from scratch because you could only do .NET or Silverlight (which is WPF "light"). Who was going to develop for WP 7.5? Nobody. The few developers who had tried to develop for WP7 had lost it all because nobody was buying WP devices. Not only that, WP 7.5 was so crappy it was plain impossible to get something decent done on that platform!

If Nokia had kept on the MeeGo plan, they would be #2 today (behind Android because, you know, every brand and their neighbor are releasing Android phones).

Edited 2013-08-31 23:38 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by Nelson
by Soulbender on Thu 29th Aug 2013 15:11 in reply to "RE: Comment by Nelson"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Uh, what? In hindsight there's no doubt RIM's future would have been much brighter by now if they had accepted MS offer. The harsh truth is that they missed the boat and no-one gives a shit about BBRY any more, not even the enterprise customers.

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RE[3]: Comment by Nelson
by Vanders on Thu 29th Aug 2013 17:15 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Nelson"
Vanders Member since:
2005-07-06

In hindsight there's no doubt RIM's future would have been much brighter by now if they had accepted MS offer.

I'm not sure how anyone can call it one way or the other. For all we know, RIM could have produced terrible hardware for Windows Phone and tanked even quicker. We'll never know.

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RE[2]: Comment by Nelson
by bassbeast on Thu 29th Aug 2013 20:57 in reply to "RE: Comment by Nelson"
bassbeast Member since:
2007-11-11

Why do you say that? Nokia has already gotten a couple of billion from MSFT in advertising, last i checked their sales have been going up for the past couple of quarters and MSFT has deep enough pockets to subsidize if not outright give Lumia phones to the carriers for free, all that is a great boon to Nokia.

Like it or not Nokia will live on if nothing else as the mobile hardware division of MSFT while RIM bleeds out with sales dropping and nothing really compelling on the horizon. With MSFT having a virtual lock on the enterprise market RIM was VERY stupid not to partner with MSFT but instead I have a feeling they'll go the way of Palm.

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RE[3]: Comment by Nelson
by tylerdurden on Fri 30th Aug 2013 01:54 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Nelson"
tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17

That's a common misconception. Nokia may be getting a temporary capital injection from Microsoft, but they (MS) are getting back that capital and at least half a billion dollars net back from Nokia.

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RE[3]: Comment by Nelson
by bert64 on Fri 30th Aug 2013 17:06 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Nelson"
bert64 Member since:
2007-04-23

Sales of lumias have been going up slowly, while sales of symbian and featurephone devices have been going down very quickly...
Overall sales are still down significantly on what they were a couple of years ago. When they decided to drop symbian, it was still selling more than lumia sells today.

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