Linked by Howard Fosdick on Thu 29th Aug 2013 03:50 UTC
QNX According to a Computerworld article, BlackBerry is exploring putting itself up for sale, as the company falls into 4th place in the mobile market. IDC statistics that show Android leads the mobile market with nearly 80%, iOS has 13.2%, Windows Phone 3.7%, and BlackBerry 2.9%. Gartner analyst Bill Menezes states that even new ownership is "not going to address how the company restores itself."

One key asset BlackBerry owns is QNX, the real-time based OS it bought in 2010. QNX is microkernel based, versus the monolithic kernel used by many OS's like Linux. BlackBerry bases its tablet and phone OS's on QNX, which also remains a popular commercial OS for embedded systems.
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RE: The phones are good
by bnolsen on Thu 29th Aug 2013 12:47 UTC in reply to "The phones are good"
bnolsen
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2006-01-06

I'm starting to think RIM needs to switch from tradition sales through att, verizon, etc and try selling through the internet via the deals sites, etc. Try to drum up grass roots support, something different.

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RE[2]: The phones are good
by bassbeast on Thu 29th Aug 2013 21:08 in reply to "RE: The phones are good"
bassbeast Member since:
2007-11-11

But what is the angle? What is the selling point? Pretend you work in a phone shop and I come in, my Android is getting a little long in the tooth and I'm looking for something new...sell it to me. What does Blackberry give me, the non enterprise consumer, that Android and iOS does not?

Because from what I have read pretty much all the killer features of Blackberry require a backend that Joe and Sally simply won't have or are features they won't care about. Remember that thanks to familiarity and inertia its hard to get people to give up something they already know how to use so it can't just be a little better or close enough, it has to have some features that will really make me reach for my wallet but so far I haven't heard of any.

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RE[3]: The phones are good
by Neolander on Fri 30th Aug 2013 05:54 in reply to "RE[2]: The phones are good"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

But what is the angle? What is the selling point? Pretend you work in a phone shop and I come in, my Android is getting a little long in the tooth and I'm looking for something new...sell it to me. What does Blackberry give me, the non enterprise consumer, that Android and iOS does not?

Because from what I have read pretty much all the killer features of Blackberry require a backend that Joe and Sally simply won't have or are features they won't care about. Remember that thanks to familiarity and inertia its hard to get people to give up something they already know how to use so it can't just be a little better or close enough, it has to have some features that will really make me reach for my wallet but so far I haven't heard of any.

As someone who recently switched from Android to BB10 on the Q5, perhaps I can help ;)

Versus Android, the main point of using BB10 would be that you get a feature-complete and ready to use package out of the box, instead of having to install third-party apps and tweak lots of settings in order to get a comfortable user experience.

To be more precise, as compared to untweaked Android, BB10 has excellent battery life, a more complete feature set, good performance, no crapware, a clearer and more efficient UI (though the gestures do take a day or two to get used to), and easily available handsets with physical keyboards for those who feel more comfortable with them. Also, one can hope that vertical integration will allow for a better update situation than on Android, though this is speculation at this point.

As compared to fully tweaked Android, the gap is much smaller, but you get a more integrated package where features aren't spread all over the place, and overall less bugs (though those that remain can be quite annoying). Besides, I'm not sure that your average Android customer would be able to apply the level of tweaking that I did on my former Android phone, so for him, good defaults have a value too.

If we now compare BB10 to iOS, you get a larger choice of handset, more customization abilities, and a more efficient interface where frequently used messaging features are more easily accessed than by constantly going through the application grid. It is, in my opinion, a good middle ground between Android's "build your own handset" and iOS' "we know what you want, trust us".

Overall, BB10 also has the usability edge over iOS in my opinion, since I spend less time WTFing against stupid design decisions or looking for hidden controls whenever I have to do something on my Q5 than on an iPhone. But these are close, as BB10 has the gestures going against him on the usability front, and perhaps more important I don't own an iOS device, so anytime I pick one up, I have to rediscover that OS' quirks. Thus, your experience may be different for that one.

Edited 2013-08-30 06:16 UTC

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RE[3]: The phones are good
by caudex on Fri 30th Aug 2013 06:53 in reply to "RE[2]: The phones are good"
caudex Member since:
2008-07-05

BlackBerry 10 gives you a new experience compared to the old and boring Android and iOS. It also gives you _the_ best soft keyboard ever made (I've used them all - iOS, Windows Phone, Android variants, Meego Harmattan, etc) making it a real communication powerhouse. It's the first device to make typing fun. ;) ;)

It also gives you the BlackBerry hub which is a very nice "all in one" mail/message/notification page, accessible from anywhere and anytime in the OS.

BlackBerry Z10/Q10 also comes with exchangable batteries and micro sd slots. The device root file system and sd cards can be encrypted for securing your data (and you don't need BES for that).

You can also do fine granular access rights for applications, unlike other OS:es (though Android 4.3 seems to have gotten support for it now - even though it's a bit hidden). So it's entirely possible to limit what applications can access, etc.

What it doesn't have are, for example: Instagram, Viber, and some minor other applications. But it does have Skype, Whatsapp, WeChat, and more. Viber should be released for BlackBerry 10.2 in the autumn accordingly to Viber themselves (as far as I know).

Dropbox, Box, etc, are all built in as we expect these days. The services are accessible through other applications if the user allows just that.

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