Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 4th Sep 2013 11:46 UTC
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Microsoft paid billions for a license to Nokia's patents, but the company has made explicit that Nokia still owns the patents. The genius of this move is that it allows Microsoft to double down on its patent war with Android. Microsoft boasts that the majority of Android phones sold worldwide have already paid for a license to Microsoft patents. By 2011, patent licensing revenue exceeded Microsoft's revenue from Windows Phone.

Now, Nokia can go after Android phone makers for royalties - even ones that have already paid Microsoft.

When pressed on the issue today, a Nokia spokesman confirmed that more patent licensing is indeed part of the plan.

So, without products, Nokia will become a true patent troll. Good to know.

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RE: Ultimate irony
by Nelson on Wed 4th Sep 2013 15:37 UTC in reply to "Ultimate irony"
Nelson
Member since:
2005-11-29

According to the agreement of the sell off, they can't make Nokia branded smartphones until 2016.

Even then it wouldn't make sense, as they just sold 36,000 employees to Microsoft. They'd be essentially starting from scratch.

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RE[2]: Ultimate irony
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Wed 4th Sep 2013 16:56 in reply to "RE: Ultimate irony"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

What if they just re-licensed the Nokia brand to a Chinese company, like Xiaomi? It would help the acceptance of the brand outside of China, and have great software behind it.

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RE[2]: Ultimate irony
by jgfenix on Wed 4th Sep 2013 17:07 in reply to "RE: Ultimate irony"
jgfenix Member since:
2006-05-25

The could buy Jolla.

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RE[3]: Ultimate irony
by shmerl on Wed 4th Sep 2013 19:24 in reply to "RE[2]: Ultimate irony"
shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

Jolla would be mad to agree to that. Those people left Nokia on purpose. They have no desire to repeat the same problems all over again.

Edited 2013-09-04 19:24 UTC

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RE[2]: Ultimate irony
by bnolsen on Wed 4th Sep 2013 18:31 in reply to "RE: Ultimate irony"
bnolsen Member since:
2006-01-06

Starting from scratch is where nokia needs to be then. The nokia brand is still decent, they could rely on chinese manufacturing to design and build their phones, put on non junked up vanilla android, keep updates going and become a player again very quickly.

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RE[3]: Ultimate irony
by Nelson on Wed 4th Sep 2013 23:02 in reply to "RE[2]: Ultimate irony"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Starting from scratch is where nokia needs to be then. The nokia brand is still decent, they could rely on chinese manufacturing to design and build their phones, put on non junked up vanilla android, keep updates going and become a player again very quickly.


I really don't think this is going to happen, but to each his own. If core Nokia wanted to remain in devices, they would've retained D&S.

They essentially spun off Devices with Microsoft picking it up.

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RE[2]: Ultimate irony
by r_a_trip on Thu 5th Sep 2013 10:22 in reply to "RE: Ultimate irony"
r_a_trip Member since:
2005-07-06

Well, shedding 36,000 expensive employees gives Nokia the option to start again with a much smaller division and a lot of the old obligations in the Nokia D&S are probably Microsoft's "problem" now.

As for the branding, if it only pertains to the name Nokia, I have a suggestion for a new brand; aIkon!. Should be different enough from Nokia and as a bonus it doesn't carry the connotations of the Symbian legacy.

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