Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 4th Sep 2013 11:46 UTC
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Microsoft paid billions for a license to Nokia's patents, but the company has made explicit that Nokia still owns the patents. The genius of this move is that it allows Microsoft to double down on its patent war with Android. Microsoft boasts that the majority of Android phones sold worldwide have already paid for a license to Microsoft patents. By 2011, patent licensing revenue exceeded Microsoft's revenue from Windows Phone.

Now, Nokia can go after Android phone makers for royalties - even ones that have already paid Microsoft.

When pressed on the issue today, a Nokia spokesman confirmed that more patent licensing is indeed part of the plan.

So, without products, Nokia will become a true patent troll. Good to know.

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RE: Comment by Nelson
by shmerl on Wed 4th Sep 2013 15:58 UTC in reply to "Comment by Nelson"
shmerl
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Do you think they'll work on innovation when their core business is gone? They have no motivation to make anything new anymore. So they essentially are an NPE troll.

Edited 2013-09-04 16:04 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by Nelson
by unclefester on Thu 5th Sep 2013 07:32 in reply to "RE: Comment by Nelson"
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2007-01-13

Nokia's core business is networking solutions not making phones. In other words they are much more like Huawei than HTC.

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RE[3]: Comment by Nelson
by tylerdurden on Sun 8th Sep 2013 19:31 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Nelson"
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2009-03-17

That's a misconception.

Nokia's device division used to be the largest one in the company. However, their market share collapsed (and is still collapsing) so dramatically that both their Device and NSN divisions are pretty much even as far as revenue is concerned.

Which is why they had to unload their device div, which was going to eventually lead the whole company towards collapse, and reinvent themselves as an infrastructure company. NSN is just about the only division which managed to turn a profit (a small one at that). But NSN still suffers the same cancer as the rest of the Nokia group: they have shitty margins in a growing market. Not good.

Edited 2013-09-08 19:32 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by Nelson
by Megol on Fri 6th Sep 2013 15:10 in reply to "RE: Comment by Nelson"
Megol Member since:
2011-04-11

Do you think they'll work on innovation when their core business is gone? They have no motivation to make anything new anymore. So they essentially are an NPE troll.


Maybe it would be better if you tried to apply some thought before posting? Yes I intend to insult you - you and "Mr" Thom can't have activated two braincells between you.

Making a living out of patents doesn't make one a patent troll especially when (like Nokia) the patents are true innovations unlike (Apple...) patents that describe things already on the market. I write this while being strongly against patents BTW.

There are many companies that specialize in development of different things but not manufacturing anything themselves. You may have heard of ARM for instance?

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RE[3]: Comment by Nelson
by shmerl on Sun 8th Sep 2013 07:18 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Nelson"
shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

Not a patent troll? Check out how Nokia attacked VP8 and German court threw out part of their claim already. Troll does not mean someone who doesn't produce anything. Troll can mean any extortionist.

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