Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 9th Sep 2013 21:24 UTC
Windows

Starting today, we will extend availability of our current Windows 8.1, Windows 8.1 Pro and Windows Server 2012 R2 RTM builds to the developer and IT professional communities via MSDN and TechNet subscriptions. The Windows 8.1 RTM Enterprise edition will be available through MSDN and TechNet for businesses later this month.

Developers had been asking for this.

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RE[2]: Reverse Course
by gilboa on Tue 10th Sep 2013 09:02 UTC in reply to "RE: Reverse Course"
gilboa
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2005-07-06

Thanks for the youtube movie. Best Windows 8 review, ever.

- Gilboa

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RE[3]: Reverse Course
by lucas_maximus on Tue 10th Sep 2013 18:58 in reply to "RE[2]: Reverse Course"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Pity most of the things on there are inaccurate or just plain wrong.

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RE[4]: Reverse Course
by gilboa on Wed 11th Sep 2013 09:41 in reply to "RE[3]: Reverse Course"
gilboa Member since:
2005-07-06

Pity most of the things on there are inaccurate or just plain wrong.


Let agree not to agree, shell we?

- Gilboa

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RE[4]: Reverse Course
by bassbeast on Wed 11th Sep 2013 19:52 in reply to "RE[3]: Reverse Course"
bassbeast Member since:
2007-11-11

What is wrong? List them please because I have seen EVERY SINGLE THING he listed and more dealing with Win 8!

In fact to give Windows 8 a truly fair and accurate test, thinking like Vista maybe it just needed the early bugs ironed out, when dad ordered a brand new laptop with Win 8 I simply handed it over, no different than if he went himself and bought it from any shop...within an hour he wanted to throw the laptop out of the window because Win 8 was constantly fighting him and doing crap he didn't want it to do!

Why is there no steering wheel on your bicycle? Why is there no handlebars on your car? Simple, because a UI that works great in one context may be terrible in another and that IS Windows 8 in a nutshell! Ballmer saw Apple pass MSFT as the most valuable company and tried to pull a hamfisted repeat of the "IE VS Netscape" bit by sticking a tablet UI on Windows and then thinking he could FORCE the market to buy windows tablets by "getting them used to metro" by sticking it on other devices...look at the figures, WinMetro is a massive failure, users don't want it, devs don't want it, nobody wants it.

let me ask you a question Lucas...if this is such a great idea, why hasn't Apple done it? Why have they not replaced OSX with iOS? Why has Google reversed course and said that Android wouldn't be replacing ChromeOS? the answer couldn't be simpler, a UI designed around small screen touch screens simply does not work well on large vertical non touch screens, yet MSFT refuses to accept that.

Did you watch the video through to the end? How do you respond to the actual experts in UI design saying it was a bad design? I mean you have users avoiding it like STDs, you have experts saying its a bad design, and sales of X86 systems dropped like a stone when win 8 came out...what more proof do you need?

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