Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 9th Sep 2013 21:24 UTC
Windows

Starting today, we will extend availability of our current Windows 8.1, Windows 8.1 Pro and Windows Server 2012 R2 RTM builds to the developer and IT professional communities via MSDN and TechNet subscriptions. The Windows 8.1 RTM Enterprise edition will be available through MSDN and TechNet for businesses later this month.

Developers had been asking for this.

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RE[2]: Really not so bad
by novad on Tue 10th Sep 2013 14:32 UTC in reply to "RE: Really not so bad"
novad
Member since:
2010-06-10

People use computers to be productive, servers are for business users.


I do not disagree with you... I also said that:

Metro on production desktops and on servers is a pain in the a$$. It should at least be possible to “opt out” from boot to Metro without third party tools.



You have to be able to use it to be productive.


You can... But there are 3 major problems before you're able to:

- You must configure the UI like hell before it's usable
- You need third party tools to circumvent Metro
- You can’t make these tweeks through GPOs (or only through registry keys)

This is not a problem for servers... You just have to get used to the interface and that's it (There are even some nice tools in the interface I would really miss now), but for the productive workplace this is a "no go".

Users are simply not able to make such radical changes... I work with this on a daily basis and it took me literally weeks to get used to it and become really productive (again)

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RE[3]: Really not so bad
by Lennie on Tue 10th Sep 2013 14:40 in reply to "RE[2]: Really not so bad"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

Isn't that what Windows 8.1 is gonna do ?:

'It should at least be possible to “opt out” from boot to Metro without third party tools.'

And also add a start-button ?

Haven't been following the Windows 8.1 news all that well.

The other way to opt out of the UI is Windows Core. ;-)

(you might still need an other machine to manage it though which does have that stupid UI, but it allows you to configure it ones)

Edited 2013-09-10 14:43 UTC

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RE[4]: Really not so bad
by novad on Tue 10th Sep 2013 14:54 in reply to "RE[3]: Really not so bad"
novad Member since:
2010-06-10

Isn't that what Windows 8.1 is gonna do ?:


Honestly... I don't know... I havn't tested Windows 8.1, just 2012 R2.

I've heard that too (opt out + Start button).

IF this is true, it could be the missing key for business use. At least for me it'll be the moment I'll start to test deployment scenarios.

The other way to opt out of the UI is Windows Core. ;-)


For servers, yep... Especially with the new centralized management interface. This one is a sexy tool ;)

edit : Typos typos and typos again

Edited 2013-09-10 14:55 UTC

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