Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 9th Sep 2013 21:22 UTC, submitted by lucas_maximus
X11, Window Managers Intel on Ubuntu's XMir:

We do not condone or support Canonical in the course of action they have chosen, and will not carry XMir patches upstream.

Ubuntu has to do virtually all its work on Xmir drivers by itself. No one else supports it.

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RE[6]: Comment by aaronb
by Sauron on Tue 10th Sep 2013 16:32 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by aaronb"
Sauron
Member since:
2005-08-02

Their Catalyst drivers won't. But the open source AMD driver will.

Yeah, and we all know how good they are. /sarcasm

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RE[7]: Comment by aaronb
by aaronb on Tue 10th Sep 2013 19:54 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by aaronb"
aaronb Member since:
2005-07-06

Actually, the open source drivers are not that bad now for PC use (not laptops). I have been able to play many games using Wine and natively at 30 to 60 FPS.

This time last year the open source drivers simply were not fast or complete enough. But as of Ubuntu 13.04 and Fedora 18 and 19 they are okay for a PC if you are using an AMD 6870 (I have no idea how other cards perform).

Hopefully when the power management patches are enabled by default Laptops will not spontaneously set on fire ;) .

Here is info regarding the patches:
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2013-June/040436.ht...

Edited 2013-09-10 19:55 UTC

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RE[8]: Comment by aaronb
by _txf_ on Wed 11th Sep 2013 12:47 in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by aaronb"
_txf_ Member since:
2008-03-17

Actually, the open source drivers are not that bad now for PC use (not laptops). I have been able to play many games using Wine and natively at 30 to 60 FPS.


I should clarify that I'm not talking about their open source drivers, I'm referring to their binary drivers.

The open source drivers have to potential to work very well with the rest of the existing infrastructure (no shims, devs talk to each other)

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RE[8]: Comment by aaronb
by allanregistos on Thu 12th Sep 2013 04:38 in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by aaronb"
allanregistos Member since:
2011-02-10

Actually, the open source drivers are not that bad now for PC use (not laptops). I have been able to play many games using Wine and natively at 30 to 60 FPS.

This time last year the open source drivers simply were not fast or complete enough. But as of Ubuntu 13.04 and Fedora 18 and 19 they are okay for a PC if you are using an AMD 6870 (I have no idea how other cards perform).

Hopefully when the power management patches are enabled by default Laptops will not spontaneously set on fire ;) .

Here is info regarding the patches:
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2013-June/040436.ht...

This will make sense if a users is a GPU driver developer, but for the vast majority of users, buying an AMD GPU, install Linux, install open source drivers only because of an FOSS-only ideology, then playing games with sub-par performance doesn't make sense.

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RE[8]: Comment by aaronb
by zima on Sat 14th Sep 2013 13:12 in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by aaronb"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

So the open AMD drivers are still wasteful with electricity on the desktop...

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